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Goodnightmoon said:
Lawlight said:

The difference is that Sony's gaming division is profitable without the need of one-off sale. And they haven't even diversified to mobile yet, though I wouldn't count that as part of gaming.

Lame excuses as always, specially knowing that Nintendo has been profitable always except for one single year and always using their games as main moneymaker while Sony had many years with red numbers.



Oh, and making games for mobiles is part of gaming, you can say whatever you want about it, it doesn't change reality.


Ah 2009 - that's how far back people have to go to slight the PS division?



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Goodnightmoon said:
Lawlight said:

The difference is that Sony's gaming division is profitable without the need of one-off sale. And they haven't even diversified to mobile yet, though I wouldn't count that as part of gaming.

Lame excuses as always, specially knowing that Nintendo has been profitable always except for one single year and always using their games as main moneymaker while Sony had many years with red numbers.



Oh, and making games for mobiles is part of gaming, you can say whatever you want about it, it doesn't change reality.


 

Poeple need to stop posting this chart.

 

1. It's horribly wrong. 

2. It's comparing different types of profit/segments

3. It's horribly wrong. 



ZhugeEX said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Lame excuses as always, specially knowing that Nintendo has been profitable always except for one single year and always using their games as main moneymaker while Sony had many years with red numbers.



Oh, and making games for mobiles is part of gaming, you can say whatever you want about it, it doesn't change reality.


 

Poeple need to stop posting this chart.

 

1. It's horribly wrong. 

2. It's comparing different types of profit/segments

3. It's horribly wrong. 

Is there a more accurate on in the wild? 



Aym07 said:

Took the time to look it up!, Microsoft mixes together a lot of things, like the Surface pc, under the same revenue statements without specifying their % of the total profit. Also, they separate hardware sales from xbox live sales. And on top of that they mix xbox live's revenue with different streams of revenue from other products. A total headache, and I believe that is totally on purpose because from what I found, even with all those things combined, xbox doesn't really make that much of a profit. Sony has a lot of different segments but they do specify rather well how much their game division makes year on year. And Nintendo is just Nintendo. Losses are between brackets.

FY Ending March SONY NINTENDO
2011 $429,000,000 $946,000,000
2012 $354,907,870 ($434,500,000)
2013 $18,000,000 $71,400,000
2014 ($78,000,000) ($229,000,000)
2015 $401,000,000 $207,830,000
2016 $785,000,000 $146,000,000
2017 $1,210,000,000

$263,000,000

Total $3,120,000,000 $970,000,000

The total is from 2011 onwards, since the 3DS release and the start of the 8th gen! Sony is clearly winning this gen, obviously. But even with that, I really don't understand why the argument of "Nintendoom" is even a thing. Sony hasn't really make that much of a profit in their gaming division throughout the years. Nintendo is by FAR the gaming king, regarding profit. Less than 4 billion dollars all time for Sony vs more than 33 billion dollars for Nintendo.

And it's not like Nintendo screwed up that badly with the Wii U. Sony lost 4 and a half billion dollars between 2007 and 2010. The Ps4 isn't even close of breaking even for Sony. It needs at least 1 and a half more years for it to break even in fact. But Nintendo? Rock solid profit for the foreseeable future, and their losses are more than made up for already. 

Btw, I believe Sony has an incredible future with the ps4 too, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of the arguments against Nintendo. Numbers don't lie, and what really matters is profit, not unit solds. 80 million PS3 consoles sold vs the Wii U's 13 million, care to guess which one was profitable?

Oh and Spanish native speaker here! Sorry for any mistakes! Feel free to point them out (:

A post to end all posts. THE post of the entire thread. Thank you, sir. 



ZhugeEX said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Lame excuses as always, specially knowing that Nintendo has been profitable always except for one single year and always using their games as main moneymaker while Sony had many years with red numbers.



Oh, and making games for mobiles is part of gaming, you can say whatever you want about it, it doesn't change reality.


 

Poeple need to stop posting this chart.

 

1. It's horribly wrong. 

2. It's comparing different types of profit/segments

3. It's horribly wrong. 

Can you make one accurate?



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Miyamotoo said:
ZhugeEX said:

 

Poeple need to stop posting this chart.

 

1. It's horribly wrong. 

2. It's comparing different types of profit/segments

3. It's horribly wrong. 

Can you make one accurate?

 

For Sony and Nintendo it's possible. 

For Microsoft it isn't. 

Even in the table above the Microsoft numbers account for things other than Xbox profit (Stuff like skype and Surface etc...)



Miyamotoo said:

Aym07 said:

Took the time to look it up!, Microsoft mixes together a lot of things, like the Surface pc, under the same revenue statements without specifying their % of the total profit. Also, they separate hardware sales from xbox live sales. And on top of that they mix xbox live's revenue with different streams of revenue from other products. A total headache, and I believe that is totally on purpose because from what I found, even with all those things combined, xbox doesn't really make that much of a profit. Sony has a lot of different segments but they do specify rather well how much their game division makes year on year. And Nintendo is just Nintendo. Losses are between brackets.

FY Ending March SONY NINTENDO
2011 $429,000,000 $946,000,000
2012 $354,907,870 ($434,500,000)
2013 $18,000,000 $71,400,000
2014 ($78,000,000) ($229,000,000)
2015 $401,000,000 $207,830,000
2016 $785,000,000 $146,000,000
2017 $1,210,000,000

$263,000,000

Total $3,120,000,000 $970,000,000

The total is from 2011 onwards, since the 3DS release and the start of the 8th gen! Sony is clearly winning this gen, obviously. But even with that, I really don't understand why the argument of "Nintendoom" is even a thing. Sony hasn't really make that much of a profit in their gaming division throughout the years. Nintendo is by FAR the gaming king, regarding profit. Less than 4 billion dollars all time for Sony vs more than 33 billion dollars for Nintendo.

And it's not like Nintendo screwed up that badly with the Wii U. Sony lost 4 and a half billion dollars between 2007 and 2010. The Ps4 isn't even close of breaking even for Sony. It needs at least 1 and a half more years for it to break even in fact. But Nintendo? Rock solid profit for the foreseeable future, and their losses are more than made up for already. 

Btw, I believe Sony has an incredible future with the ps4 too, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of the arguments against Nintendo. Numbers don't lie, and what really matters is profit, not unit solds. 80 million PS3 consoles sold vs the Wii U's 13 million, care to guess which one was profitable?

Oh and Spanish native speaker here! Sorry for any mistakes! Feel free to point them out (:

You countend only Operative Profit? Because Net Profit (bottom line of profit) for Nintendo is $920m.

Yeah, but only for that year, because I didn't want to give others the opportunity to refute my post just by saying "That Nintento profit is just because they sold a baseball team", And the data from Sony is just Games, so it is also fair I believe.



GoOnKid said:
Aym07 said:

Took the time to look it up!, Microsoft mixes together a lot of things, like the Surface pc, under the same revenue statements without specifying their % of the total profit. Also, they separate hardware sales from xbox live sales. And on top of that they mix xbox live's revenue with different streams of revenue from other products. A total headache, and I believe that is totally on purpose because from what I found, even with all those things combined, xbox doesn't really make that much of a profit. Sony has a lot of different segments but they do specify rather well how much their game division makes year on year. And Nintendo is just Nintendo. Losses are between brackets.

FY Ending March SONY NINTENDO
2011 $429,000,000 $946,000,000
2012 $354,907,870 ($434,500,000)
2013 $18,000,000 $71,400,000
2014 ($78,000,000) ($229,000,000)
2015 $401,000,000 $207,830,000
2016 $785,000,000 $146,000,000
2017 $1,210,000,000

$263,000,000

Total $3,120,000,000 $970,000,000

The total is from 2011 onwards, since the 3DS release and the start of the 8th gen! Sony is clearly winning this gen, obviously. But even with that, I really don't understand why the argument of "Nintendoom" is even a thing. Sony hasn't really make that much of a profit in their gaming division throughout the years. Nintendo is by FAR the gaming king, regarding profit. Less than 4 billion dollars all time for Sony vs more than 33 billion dollars for Nintendo.

And it's not like Nintendo screwed up that badly with the Wii U. Sony lost 4 and a half billion dollars between 2007 and 2010. The Ps4 isn't even close of breaking even for Sony. It needs at least 1 and a half more years for it to break even in fact. But Nintendo? Rock solid profit for the foreseeable future, and their losses are more than made up for already. 

Btw, I believe Sony has an incredible future with the ps4 too, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of the arguments against Nintendo. Numbers don't lie, and what really matters is profit, not unit solds. 80 million PS3 consoles sold vs the Wii U's 13 million, care to guess which one was profitable?

Oh and Spanish native speaker here! Sorry for any mistakes! Feel free to point them out (:

A post to end all posts. THE post of the entire thread. Thank you, sir. 

I'm glad you think so! thank you!



I like when Nintendo makes money cause I like to read comments about how this is not that good or comments about how "this is because of this certain bs, and doesn't mean shit" thanks guys, love.



ZhugeEX said:
Miyamotoo said:

Can you make one accurate?

 

For Sony and Nintendo it's possible. 

For Microsoft it isn't. 

Even in the table above the Microsoft numbers account for things other than Xbox profit (Stuff like skype and Surface etc...)

It would be interesting to see for Sony and Nintendo, net and operating profits side buy side comparisions.