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AFter voting, is it what you expected?

Yes, pretty much. Huge change 76 8.85%
 
Yes 28 3.26%
 
Not really, thought he wo... 15 1.75%
 
not at all. 83 9.66%
 
You made your bed now sleep in it. 40 4.66%
 
other 3 0.35%
 
see results 51 5.94%
 
I did not vote for him, d... 31 3.61%
 
I did not vote for him, k... 223 25.96%
 
I did not vote/not an American 309 35.97%
 
Total:859

Just curious, does any American here or that you know of still strongly support Trump and agree with his actions?



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spurgeonryan said:
Eagle367 said:
Well America could have gotten an actual human being in the form of Bernie Sanders or Jon Kasich one is liberal the other democrat and both were miles upon miles upon miles better than Hillary or Drumpf. Imagine an actually decent and full of dignity election between two human beings instead of two psychopaths that you guys voted for. It was your option to choose in essence selfish robots and then selecting a clown robot to win

Sadly it comes down to one or the other here. You can vote for others, but there is no point.

 

It was our option, but the world, not only the US, has to live with it.

Well still your screw up since Bernie and john were both a million times better and all of us were screaming at our TVs collectively when Clinton and Drumpf won about how damn stupid you are. Hopefully France does not do something stupid at an election or referendum like Murica, UK and turkey



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H.E.R. said:
LivingMetal said:

Of course I called bias.  And why not?  People are bias and people are a source of info.  And it's a fact that Hilliary lied during senate hearings, people have written books on their negative dealings with the Clintons, business and political partners of the Clinton's have died mysterious death, how the Clinton's have personally financially profitted from the Clinton Foundation from external and foreign sources, etc.  It's all out there whether I post links or not.  But it's not going to make a difference to you which is where your bias comes from.  And I mentioned family because some people put too much faith in political policy to aid and validate their lives which causes the self-righteous political pissing contest bullshit. It was a friendly and constructive warning I extend to you, and if you cannot keep an opened and tolerant view on it, you'll never see past politcal bias for a greater and better cause.

So you completely rag on my sources and your defense for not voting for Hillary Clinton is...sources. And not just sources, but conspiracy theories on a Clinton death list. Well done, I think you have summed up why you voted for Trump haha.

And people do keep an eye on political policy because it actually affects the common American citizen. Policies such as taxes, health care, and immigration or how much people's expenses will go up are just a few effects that can happen to any hardworking person simply living his/her life but is impacted by a Presidential Administration. Something simple as spoken words from any Presidential Administration do have an impact on families.

I'm honestly asking you now. Help me see. Without naming Clinton or Sanders, how has Trump's Administration benefited the greater and better cause so far?

Assuming more jobs are created and the economy gets better, it provides for my family and those around me.  I work for the largest steel provider in the United States - NUCOR!  And trust me when I say this, NUCOR puts their employees first by promoting a safe environment while condoning high work ethics, lower hours, and greater bonus pay incentives.  Less taxes and deregulations will allow corporations such as NUCOR to cater more to their employees to produce better products which grows the market which will create better jobs.  This should apply similarly to all goods and services.  You're given the choice to do good without legal and political restrictions.  And while that choice can be abused, companies like NUCOR has been an example of employee driven success.  Whether you like it or not, we live in a world where business provides a means for sustainability for the individual.  I've already mentioned that Trump is an ass.  But his policies to help America grow economically will help members of the priviate sector such as myself and millions of other hard working Americans whether his motives are self-serving or not.  Trump is a businessman so he and his family will natually benefit when the rest of the economy benefit including you.  Nothing wrong or shameful in that.  And this is no different from any other adminstration who benefits from their time in office.  This results in me having access to better resources to help better provide for my family and those around me in need.

#truth



SpokenTruth said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I am a liberal libertarian who voted for Trump, essentially as a protest vote.

So we have you to thank for that thing in office?

No, you have the Dems and the Media who helped him coast through the Republican Primaries to thank for it.  They thought it would be so funny to have him win the Republican nomination and have him as the opposition ticket in the election.  Only problem was, it wasn't so funny anymore when half the voters didn't like the only other choice provided to them.  A candidate who didn't set foot in the entire state of Wisconsin even 1 time during her entire campaign, but then protests the Wisconsin election result... makes only 3 campaign stops in Iowa, a state that Obama campaigned in 87 times, thereby losing a significant amount of "Obama Democrats"...  and gets caught sponsoring domestic terrorism, i.e. paying for mentally ill and homeless people to incite violence at Trump rallies under the disguise of "spontaneous protesters" as admitted to on tape by former DNC operatives Scott Foval and Robert Creamer. 

That's who you have to thank.



No remorse for trump voters, if you looked into it you knew what you were getting.



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No I dont' regret it. I do though want the media to fricken implode and need to make huge changes. It is so insanely biased I can't even watch it anymore. I'll watch a small bit of local news, but otherwise you can't trust anything anymore from the news. I've resorted to watching people on YouTube like Philip Defranco or others who can just "report" the news without having to toss in their spin or agenda.

Take Trump for example. Saw a bunch of articles and pics showing his 100 days failure. They were basically lists of things he promised to do in his 100 days and saying "nope" Well if you looked at the list, he tried to do most all of those things, except go after Hillary, yet they are being delayed/blocked/ect from inept congress or some random small judge in a random state. Say what you want about if those things would be good or not, the very fact he is attempting to actually do what he promised is an insanely rare thing in a president.

Also take the recent Twitter finances. They came out like this week sometime. There was hundreds of articles about them. You know talking about their growth, increased revenue, stocks rising, ect. You know all good things. Then there are a couple articles saying "Even with Trump, twitter fails to ...." whatever it was, going off memory. But seriously like 99% of the articles are about how great Twitter is doing, and yet they are saying it is doing bad? And what's with the Trump click bait.

But agenda'd click bait is now the news world we live in.



UnderstatedCornHole said:
spurgeonryan said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-order-broad-review-national-monuments-123433131.html

 

I realize our economy is not doing too bad at all, but I do not attribute that to Trump. More so Obama.

 

As for the link above, are we really that bad off in America that we need more land?

I hope he realizes that just like Obamas efforts can be reversed, his can as well. He will just go down as being the worst president of all time. Before he would have been forgotten in history, just another tabloid billionairre not even on par with some of the great rich people of the late 1800's/early 1900's. Now he will be forever remembered as a pile of shit.

 

Only 100 days........so many more days left of bullshit.

Are those your views?

If they are it means you don't understand politics, like liberals and dems.

They believe what they are told to be it through friends or are deceived by liberal news over time.

Everything Trump has "failed" on - everything is because of dems following a strategy of obstruction becauee they have nothing to give positively, and the rest is the spineless republican establishment who are afraid of conflict.


I've lost interest in it all, not blaming Trump for that.

I'm a true conservative / libertarian, and as a result my core view isn't tainted by a few moronif liberals.

If you're going to insult people, at least bother to spell said insult correctly.

It's worth noting that most of what Trump claimed he would accomplish were pomises. Not conditionals, promises. He portrayed himself as a master of negotiation; someone who, using his past experience in the business world, could convince both sides to see things from his point of view. So even if you make the "obstruction" argument, Trump still fails because he campaigned on him being able to negotiate through any obstructionism.

However, even if we ignore that boast, Trump is still largely a failure because so many of his ideas failed to appeal to even his own party. Call the Republican base "spineless" all you want, if you can't create a plan that appeals to your own party, there is no way it is ever going to get passed. That's entirely on him, and the ridiculous secret healthcare committee that hid behind closed doors and refused to disclose the details of the AHA for weeks. You have to actually, you know, work with people to get legislation passed through Congress. If you're blocking out members of your own party from viewing your work, chances are you have done something horribly wrong.

Finally, though, even under the most generous of terms, it's next to impossible to blame Congress for Trump not living up to his own promises. Even if Congress had signed every single bill Trump supported, 25 million jobs wouldn't have been created in the first 100 days (which, to be perfectly clear, would be nearly impossible in this economy). Trump has yet to propose any amendment on congressional term limits, another action which he claimed he would take within 100 days. No apparent effort has been made towards rolling out the $1 trillion infrastructure plan, nor has any action been taken to his promise to significantly reduce crime. All of these are things that Trump would either have to do independently or at least get the ball rolling by introducing a plan to accomplish them, and there has been little to no progress on any.

I absolutely despise Hillary Clinton, and I'm not convinced she would have been a better option (especially with her promise to establish a no fly zone in Syria). But you have to do some mental gymnastics on par with Flat Earth supporters to believe that Trump's failings are entirely due to his opponents or his own party.



Mandalore76 said:
SpokenTruth said:

So we have you to thank for that thing in office?

No, you have the Dems and the Media who helped him coast through the Republican Primaries to thank for it.  They thought it would be so funny to have him win the Republican nomination and have him as the opposition ticket in the election.  Only problem was, it wasn't so funny anymore when half the voters didn't like the only other choice provided to them.  A candidate who didn't set foot in the entire state of Wisconsin even 1 time during her entire campaign, but then protests the Wisconsin election result... makes only 3 campaign stops in Iowa, a state that Obama campaigned in 87 times, thereby losing a significant amount of "Obama Democrats"...  and gets caught sponsoring domestic terrorism, i.e. paying for mentally ill and homeless people to incite violence at Trump rallies under the disguise of "spontaneous protesters" as admitted to on tape by former DNC operatives Scott Foval and Robert Creamer. 

That's who you have to thank.

Nope that's all on you. If you didn't want to vote for the cunt you should have voted 3rd party like any other logical thinking libertarian did. 



LivingMetal said:
H.E.R. said:

So you completely rag on my sources and your defense for not voting for Hillary Clinton is...sources. And not just sources, but conspiracy theories on a Clinton death list. Well done, I think you have summed up why you voted for Trump haha.

And people do keep an eye on political policy because it actually affects the common American citizen. Policies such as taxes, health care, and immigration or how much people's expenses will go up are just a few effects that can happen to any hardworking person simply living his/her life but is impacted by a Presidential Administration. Something simple as spoken words from any Presidential Administration do have an impact on families.

I'm honestly asking you now. Help me see. Without naming Clinton or Sanders, how has Trump's Administration benefited the greater and better cause so far?

Assuming more jobs are created and the economy gets better, it provides for my family and those around me.  I work for the largest steel provider in the United States - NUCOR!  And trust me when I say this, NUCOR puts their employees first by promoting a safe environment while condoning high work ethics, lower hours, and greater bonus pay incentives.  Less taxes and deregulations will allow corporations such as NUCOR to cater more to their employees to produce better products which grows the market which will create better jobs.  This should apply similarly to all goods and services.  You're given the choice to do good without legal and political restrictions.  And while that choice can be abused, companies like NUCOR has been an example of employee driven success.  Whether you like it or not, we live in a world where business provides a means for sustainability for the individual.  I've already mentioned that Trump is an ass.  But his policies to help America grow economically will help members of the priviate sector such as myself and millions of other hard working Americans whether his motives are self-serving or not.  Trump is a businessman so he and his family will natually benefit when the rest of the economy benefit including you.  Nothing wrong or shameful in that.  And this is no different from any other adminstration who benefits from their time in office.  This results in me having access to better resources to help better provide for my family and those around me in need.

#truth

Except what happens when more of your expenses are paid toward taxes? Great bonuses means a higher supplemental income, which are taxed higher by the nice people at the IRS. I of course know this because I work in the financial sector. Not to mention the loss of plenty of deductions in Trump's new tax plan for lower ad middle-class families (particularly his voters in red states of middle America) will be definitely paying a lot more money to the government if that plan passes. Of course you would know this had you just even skimmed through a link I posted on that. Not to mention you'll be in the same tax bracket as someone who earns more than 7 figures, so the deficit rises and causes an increased inflation. You're paying more taxes and want a raise to cover a higher amount in expenses? How about they just find someone else and pay less or you can keep your mouth shut? You know how I know NUCOR would think like that? Because it's a business, no matter how wholesome they'll try to market it to you or any other employee. All businesses care about is their bottom line, no matter what state or country.

And you do realize regulations on Wall Street were put in place to prevent another econmic crisis? Don't know if you remember that an estimated 10 million Americans lost their home to foreclosure during that recession. Please tell me what good rolling back those Wall Street regulations do along with a tariff on Canadian lumber does for current and future homeowners?

Trump is crooked even for a businessman. He was sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent to minorities, refused to pay contractors after services had been rendered, had his businesses declare bankruptcy 6 times while he stayed wealthy, and was sued by the NY Attorney General for the scam that was Trump University. Keep in mind, those aren't conspiracy theories. All of those are well documented among the literally thousands of lawsuits that were filed against him or his holdings.



SpokenTruth said:
irstupid said:
  being delayed/blocked/ect from inept congress or some random small judge in a random state.

This is the problem with Trump and his supporters.  You didn't elect a king but a president.  With that comes checks and balances.  Calling a federal judge random and the state of Hawaii random dismisses the very fundamental fabric this country is built upon. 

                               

To me the President of the United States holds more water than one single judge in the country. So as for a major country/world wide issue such as the travel ban on the heavy terrorist states, to me it shoudl be the Supreme Court and only teh Supreme court that should be approving/holding up/blocking such an order.

When Obama was president, I'm sure there was some random judge in like Kentucky or something that was rulling that every single thing that Obama did was unconstitutional.

We are too highly partisaned these days for every judge in the united states to be considered a check and balance. THere are over 3000 federal judges in teh u.s. right now, and your saying its a good thing to have it that all it takes is one of them to block any and everything the president, or congress does?

We are a democratic republic right? So why not get teh opinion on all 3000+ judges. Wouldn't that make more sense. Cause of right now, just 1 out of 3000 judges is holding something up. That seems skewed.