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Forums - Politics Discussion - Republicans Vote To Keep Health Care Benefits For Themselves, But To Cut Them For Americans

LurkerJ on 26 April 2017

Both parties are garbage.

Dems are corporate shills and take money from the same people that republicans take money from, but at least dems throw you a bone everyone once in a while. Hey, I am for gay marriage, aren't I so progressive?


But to be fair, the American system allows all Americans to be politicians and congress men, so whatever happens to Americans, it happens because they allow it to happen, that is a blessing, not a curse.

A change is still possible and can happen, if young Americans start taking actions and engage in politics for real and leave their keyboards behind. Complaining and fighting over imaginary differences won't solve anything.



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AlfredoTurkey on 26 April 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
Soundwave said:

http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/4/25/15429982/gop-exemption-ahca-amendment

House Republicans appear to have included a provision that exempts Members of Congress and their staff from their latest health care plan.


The new Republican amendment, introduced Tuesday night, would allow states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions. This means that insurers could once again, under certain circumstances, charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people.

Republican legislators liked this policy well enough to offer it in a new amendment. They do not, however, seem to like it enough to have it apply to themselves and their staff. A spokesperson for Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) who authored this amendment confirmed this was the case: members of Congress and their staff would get the guarantee of keeping this Obamacare regulations

So Republicans trying to push a bill that would let them and their families enjoy the benefits of Obamacare regulations that prevent people them for being charged for pre-existing conditions (paid for by the tax payer no less), but they are OK with these benefits being cut for average Americans. 

LOL, what a turd sandwhich of politics.  

I'm all for more affordable healthcare options. The options that cover pre existing conditions could be more expensive and should be. That's better than people choosing to not have healthcare because its too expensive (that was Obamacare). That allowed people to buy into healthcare when they actually do get sick which is unfair for those of that pay in.

On a side note, I want people who abuse their bodies to pay more for healthcare. I eat well, do some exercise, don't smoke, don't drink, I should pay less.

Congress isn't just republicans btw.

I want the US, the richest, most advance, most powerful nation the planet earth has ever seen... to provide health care to all it's people without exception. If a country as small as Australia can do it, there's no fucking excuse for us. We are run by greedy, soulless businessmen who's only goal is to increase said wealth. 

It's just a fucking disgrace and we're the laughing stock of the free world.



Lawlight on 26 April 2017
monocle_layton said:
Lawlight said:
So Congress is made up of only republicans? Thank you for the factual information.

 

vivster said:

The Democrats wanted to keep Obamacare in the first place including their own benefits, so they're not the hypocrites for once. So you see the big difference here is that Democrats want benefits for everyone and Republicans only for them selves. Very big difference.

To him, everything bad is from liberals. You'll probably never make him admit he's wrong

So Obamacare is a good thing now?



Lawlight on 26 April 2017
AlfredoTurkey said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm all for more affordable healthcare options. The options that cover pre existing conditions could be more expensive and should be. That's better than people choosing to not have healthcare because its too expensive (that was Obamacare). That allowed people to buy into healthcare when they actually do get sick which is unfair for those of that pay in.

On a side note, I want people who abuse their bodies to pay more for healthcare. I eat well, do some exercise, don't smoke, don't drink, I should pay less.

Congress isn't just republicans btw.

I want the US, the richest, most advance, most powerful nation the planet earth has ever seen... to provide health care to all it's people without exception. If a country as small as Australia can do it, there's no fucking excuse for us. We are run by greedy, soulless businessmen who's only goal is to increase said wealth. 

It's just a fucking disgrace and we're the laughing stock of the free world.

Australia is much smaller and we have the medicare levy and medicare levy surcharge here.



Aeolus451 on 26 April 2017

I wouldn't take vox's word on anything related to politics. I'll look into it more from other sources.



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Helloplite on 26 April 2017
LurkerJ said:

Both parties are garbage.

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A change is still possible and can happen, if young Americans start taking actions and engage in politics for real and leave their keyboards behind. Complaining and fighting over imaginary differences won't solve anything.

Hell will freeze all over three times before Americans rediscover politics. It is the same curse that plagues the Greeks: He who gives birth to politics and democracy is doomed to eternally disdain both. Get ready for an eternity of iterations of the same dish (Democrats-Republicans) pretending that the different seasoning really does make a difference. 



Dark_Lord_2008 on 26 April 2017

America is a disgrace. Tax cuts for the super rich millionaires and billionaires. The average American foots the bill every time. Americans need to wake up and vote in politicians that serve the interests of real every day Americans not just tax cuts for the super rich.



Soundwave on 26 April 2017
Lawlight said:
So Congress is made up of only republicans? Thank you for the factual information.

They are the ones pushing this bill. 



monocle_layton on 26 April 2017
Lawlight said:
monocle_layton said:

 

To him, everything bad is from liberals. You'll probably never make him admit he's wrong

So Obamacare is a good thing now?

Just proved my point.

 

You beat the bush whenever criticism is sent towards Republicans by mentioning something irrelevant.



Johnw1104 on 26 April 2017

To be fair, that's a provision that's included in every healthcare plan, including the ones Democrats write. People know this, but they seem to like to pretend they don't when they write their articles about it.

I remember Republicans pointing such things out not long ago.