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Who do you think will be the next President of France?

Macron 167 69.87%
 
Le Pen 72 30.13%
 
Total:239
Aeolus451 on 23 April 2017

I hope that Le Pen wins.



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Flilix on 23 April 2017
barneystinson69 said:

Interior ministry  results show 24.8%-22.2 for Le Pen with 20 million votes in. This is actual results, not just projections. I wonder how much of this is from Paris.

It's mostly in the North where people vote extreme right. In Paris, it will probably be a lot less, since it's a big city.



barneystinson69 on 23 April 2017
palou said:
barneystinson69 said:

No, they aren't. We should sit around and do nothing, that will solve the issue...

Or you could use the ressources on a real issues instead of chasing a few dozen violent attention whores.

 

Statistically, terrorism just ISN'T a major issue in Europe. Less than 1% of murder committed, and less than 0.1% of violent death.

So people who're a threat are "attention whores"? They follow a religious ideology and kill in the name of their god, but we should not deal with the issue. Sigh*



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palou on 23 April 2017
barneystinson69 said:
palou said:

Probably alluding to the fact that terrorism consists of a minimal fraction (1%, at most) of murder committed in the West. 

And keeping in mind the fact Islamic terror didn't exist at all 20 years ago in the west, yet is now a monthly occurance. People just brushing it and pretending is not an issue will only make things worse...

A monthly occurence is ridiculously little for a population of that size. 

 

Saying that it will become a major issue soon because we went from 0 per month to 1 per month is pure extrapolation.

 

Work on existing issues, not issues that may (but probably won't) have a minor impact on the population in a decade or so.



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Flilix on 23 April 2017
Aeolus451 said:
I hope that Le Pen wins.

Looking at the results of the first round, I think her chances are extremely low.



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palou on 23 April 2017
barneystinson69 said:
palou said:

Or you could use the ressources on a real issues instead of chasing a few dozen violent attention whores.

 

Statistically, terrorism just ISN'T a major issue in Europe. Less than 1% of murder committed, and less than 0.1% of violent death.

So people who're a threat are "attention whores"? They follow a religious ideology and kill in the name of their god, but we should not deal with the issue. Sigh*

Terrorist is pretty much by definition violent attention whore (trying to get people to notice your issue with violence.) What I always hated is that people GIVE them what they want (talking about them), which is why I brought it up. A great way to stop future terrorism is just not covering them for a week on all channels like it's the only bad thing we see in the country. Terrorists can often be traced back to have found inspiration on previous events, through social media.



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barneystinson69 on 23 April 2017
palou said:
barneystinson69 said:

And keeping in mind the fact Islamic terror didn't exist at all 20 years ago in the west, yet is now a monthly occurance. People just brushing it and pretending is not an issue will only make things worse...

A monthly occurence is ridiculously little for a population of that size. 

 

Saying that it will become a major issue soon because we went from 0 per month to 1 per month is pure extrapolation.

 

Work on existing issues, not issues that may (but probably won't) have a minor impact on the population in a decade or so.

I'm just saying. Terrorism will be normalized in the west very soon. Minor or not, as more Muslims move into the west, you will see more radicalized as well. I just hope people don't allow this to happen...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 on 23 April 2017
palou said:
barneystinson69 said:

So people who're a threat are "attention whores"? They follow a religious ideology and kill in the name of their god, but we should not deal with the issue. Sigh*

Terrorist is pretty much by definition violent attention whore (trying to get people to notice your issue with violence.) What I always hated is that people GIVE them what they want (talking about them), which is why I brought it up. A great way to stop future terrorism is just not covering them for a week on all channels like it's the only bad thing we see in the country. Terrorists can often be traced back to have found inspiration on previous events, through social media.

Terrorists kill for their ideology! Terrorists don't give a fuck if they are on tv, as they will be dead! I mean should events like Nice and Paris be swept under the rug? 150 people dead, but who cares? We don't want to possibly inspire radicalization, so we won't speak. I'm almost laughing, because what you are saying is just the wrong thing to do!



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

palou on 23 April 2017
barneystinson69 said:
palou said:

A monthly occurence is ridiculously little for a population of that size. 

 

Saying that it will become a major issue soon because we went from 0 per month to 1 per month is pure extrapolation.

 

Work on existing issues, not issues that may (but probably won't) have a minor impact on the population in a decade or so.

I'm just saying. Terrorism will be normalized in the west very soon. Minor or not, as more Muslims move into the west, you will see more radicalized as well. I just hope people don't allow this to happen...

Through the whole refugee crisis, the muslim population in Europe went from 5% to 6%. It's currently staling (people leaving and entering are now approximately the same.)

 

Saying that terrorism will be normalized soon (whatever that means, 5 people killed each week? still not a major issue for a population of 300 000 000) is still pure extrapolation, isn't founded on any sound reasoning. 

 



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Farsala on 23 April 2017

As long as Mélenchon didn't win, I am happy.