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No more overused than nazi or fascist tbh



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VGPolyglot said:
contestgamer said:

 

Views and perceptions arent tangible. Economic and sexual supremacy is. You're trading material, primal benefits that all animals are born with which keep the lights on and feed desires for intangibles that dont. It hurts virtually all men - however living in the current generation you wouldn't know it since you never got to experience what it was like to have social and political supremacy in the first place. There are no tangible benefits of equality for men, because by virtue of having been the dominant group in virtually all avenues of western (and non western) culture you can only attain equality by erasing that dominance.

It doesn't hurt virtually all men, because not all men are on equal standing. Of course, like always though, a class issue turns into a race, sex, etc. issue to avoid tackling the real issues.

They're not all on the same standing, but they were all virtually on a higher stading then women. That's the point. Although some people may be on a lower standing among men, they always had the satisfaction of being on a higher standing than almost all women which has been taken away.



VGPolyglot said:
Qwark said:

Nah the extremes just stand out more and get more attention but it is surely not the general opinion of people. But normal is boring and extreme is intresting that's just the way the internet and media works. Why else wouldn't we hear anything nice about Russia or other things some people and media don't agree with. Because extremes and an us vs them mentality (black/white) is far more intresting for people than the grey and boring matter which lies closest to the truth.

The thing is, most people that are being labelled as SJWs, I don't think they're on the far left. They're mainly social democrats from what I've seen, or I guess progressives as how they self-identify.

Progressives are the far left. If they weren't they wouldn't be called progressives, they'd just be called liberals or center left



contestgamer said:
VGPolyglot said:

It doesn't hurt virtually all men, because not all men are on equal standing. Of course, like always though, a class issue turns into a race, sex, etc. issue to avoid tackling the real issues.

They're not all on the same standing, but they were all virtually on a higher stading then women. That's the point. Although some people may be on a lower standing among men, they always had the satisfaction of being on a higher standing than almost all women which has been taken away.

That's assuming that it's a zero-sum game. If it's competition based, yes, but cooperation based is not zero-sum. And in order to have cooperation, there needs to be equal standing to avoid one side dominating the other.

contestgamer said:
VGPolyglot said:

The thing is, most people that are being labelled as SJWs, I don't think they're on the far left. They're mainly social democrats from what I've seen, or I guess progressives as how they self-identify.

Progressives are the far left. If they weren't they wouldn't be called progressives, they'd just be called liberals or center left

No, progressives are not the far left. Anarchists, communists, socialists, that's the far left. Progressives are centre-left.



StuOhQ said:

Way overused to begin with... how is it a bad thing, secondly?

Jesus, Ghandi, and MLK were all undoubtedly SWJs and some of histories most important figures. The real question is, what kind of person has no interest in social justice and equality?

Oligarchs, tyrants, and fascists are the only types I can think of and (as much as the left often paints the right that way) there are very few human beings that really fall into those categories.

Meaning... pretty much only 15 year olds and mental 15 year olds, who just came off reading Ayn Rand, actually fall into that category - with the exception of a few third-world dictators.

The term is used ironically. Most of these people don't actually care about social justice (especially not in the third world where millions are ACTUALLY suffering and oppressed). Rather, most are overly spoiled 1st world Millenials who have it so well that they feel guilty and that they must take on some precieved "cause" either real or phony - though even if it is a real cause much of this just resorts to being a "keyboard warrior" and yelling at others who don't see things the way they do. There's also this sort of warped perception of supporting groups they PRECIEVE as repressenting social justice but in fact do a lot more harm than good (3rd wave feminist extremism, BLM, muslim extremists, etc).

Obviously most decent human beings ACTUALLY care about REAL social justice..

The problem with these people is they use this pesudo fight for social justice in order to - silence free speech/police language, enforce their views and policies on others, segragate and compartmentalize everything and everyone into groups (usually race/gender), divide and marginalize people into either oppressor or victim, and demean/shame/slander those who don't follow their way of thinking. To me most are little more than the left's mirror image or far right racists, religious right puritans, and authoritarians.



 

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SJW is not used to mock social justice.

It is used to mock those who really demean the cause of social justice with stupid ideals and beliefs that demean thier cause.



Qwark said:
Aeolus451 said:

You're misundering the meaning of SJW if you're equating it to Ghandi or MLK. You're basically insulting them by comparing them to the likes of Anita Sarkeesian or Micheal Moore. I'm all for people being treated as equals in every sense of that saying but I'm not okay with SJWs pushing things like culture appropriation or that black people can't be racist.  That kind of shit is regressive. 

Whitr privelege is one if the most racist popular things produced by SJW. Surely that's not what Jezus intended by treating people as equals. Nor anything which will be approved by MLK since he wanted black and white to live among eachother and connect eith eachother as equal and not to act passive aggressive towards eachother behind a monitor.

 

Same goes for comparing 1st wave feminists with 3rd wave feminism in the western world not liking the entire idea of equalitarinism and are offended by people who think that sex should be entire irrelevant on how to treat any human being. Which makes you a mans right activist these days. A fun example of that is a British politician who wanted to introduce a man's day to talk about problems man face in today's society, higher dropout rates, suicide counts etc. The mere idea was offending for a clearly feminist politician which just laughed at the man as if he where a moron. I think most first wave feminist would litteraly be ashamed of this woman as for the picture this movement creates about man being all inherently potential myogenic sexists and all man being the enemy of  woman and feminism in general.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=737U7YbMqOI

You hit the nail on the head. Alot of that sort of stuff is damaging or regressive to their own cause/equality.

I think I've seen a vid like that before. Her reaction to that is messed up.



It's a term primarily used by conservatives. The same guys whose idea of an intelligent conversation involves the multi-national government cover-up of the flat shape of our planet and the links it has to the global warming agenda and the Clintons murdering a bunch of people for illuminati. You can't expect a lot of brain power behind what these chuckleheads write.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Jumpin said:

It's a term primarily used by conservatives. The same guys whose idea of an intelligent conversation involves the multi-national government cover-up of the flat shape of our planet and the links it has to the global warming agenda and the Clintons murdering a bunch of people for illuminati. You can't expect a lot of brain power behind what these chuckleheads write.

I never really thought of the Illuminati literally, I mainly took it as a metaphor for the bourgeoisie.



How could we forget this gem? Kelly Osbourne ruminating about labor division in a modern economy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0TFayRZeS8