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tbone51 on 20 April 2017
naruball said:
Mnementh said:

LOL. If 'all those Nintendo-fans' doesn't equal to most or whatever, you should be fine if someone says 'all these Sony-fans hating the Switch for no apparent reason'. Well no, this doesn't mean Sony-fans as a group, it only includes all these Sony-fans that hate the Switch for no apparent reason. LOL.

You can equate whatever you want. I'll stick to what I said.

 

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outlawauron on 20 April 2017
tbone51 said:
naruball said:

This is so flawed, it's not even funny. How did the ps2 and nds do after 3ds and ps3 launched?

I dont get what you mean by this, can you explain? (Not to startvan argument, im just curious)

 

Also there is some truth to what he said. It looks like switch is more successor to vita then anything. Looking at the current japanese support, it has some things going for it that suggest there will be plenty of softwarr in the future that will be ps4/switch multiplat insteaf of ps4vita.

 

We will get a better understanding of this in the near future of course. Vita sales are dropping but i dont think its mostly due to the switch as mang pointed out it was already going down. Minecraft was the reason it did hold on so surprisingly well this paat year and half.

That the consoles don't immediately die. They trickle out. PS2 still had multiplats of games in 2008 for Japan. It takes a long time for studios to phase out successful systems. Switch is obviously the death knell of the 3DS, but studios are going to slowly move off of it like they did with PS2 and PS3.



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tak13 on 20 April 2017

If anyone wonders..
DS sold 572k in the year of 3DS....
GBA sold 575k in the year of DS...
3DS has sold 482k within 15 weeks of 2017 ( year of switch )...
If it keeps selling 24k on average for the rest 4 weeks, 3DS will have sold more than what DS/GBA sold in 2005/2011 respectively in just 19 weeks of 2017...

As for yoy sales changes...
DS had sold 276k between Jan-first two weeks of april down by 620k compared to 2010 ( 3ds launch in the first week of march )
GBA had sold 190k between Jan-fiist two weaks of april down by 774k compared to 2004 (ds launched in mid December )
3DS has sold 482k bwtween Jan-first two weaks of april up by 18k compared to 2016 ( switch launched in the first week of march )
http://garaph.info/

What some people who are saying here that systems which are being replaced retain an exceptional sales trend
( given the circumstances ) is way wrong for Japan, that happens in the west...
I haven't check for ps2 though, but it's not a good metric since the price difference that ps3 by the time it was released vs ps2 had, was the whopping 49000 yen...

This is not to claim that switch isn't perceived as 3DS successor too because of 3DS sales being unaffected by the switch launch...

It could just be that switch doesn't have 3DS bc ( as previous handheld consoles had with their successor ) , is expensive as a handheld console ( at least in comparison with 3DS, especially with 2DS which might be the reason for 3DS being yoy up ) , no handheld console ips yet ( MH, YW, PMN, AC), and it's hardware nature ( not as much portable as a handheld console lover would like, plus being a hardware that have some similarities with wii u, a handheld part with a wide screen and a stationary part), even though all these could make some to thing that's not also 3DS successor hah.

In my opinion the biggest factor is the price and by extend the easiness of rebuyability in case of system broking down.
Also, the recently release MHXX ableit it's the 5th game on 3DS on its 6th year, but to be honest since MH games run better on new 3ds, some people are possibily upgrading.

Anyway, a great thing happening for Nintendo, they have two systems that account for the 72.5% of total weekly hardware sales.



Kresnik on 21 April 2017

Famitsu & Dengeki up. Here's Media Create back 30:

twenty one Vita ZERO ESCAPE 9 hours 9 persons 9 doors 
good people Shibowdes double pack		 Spike Chunsoft
twenty two Vita Musou ☆ Stars (limited edition included) KOEI TECMO GAMES
twenty three SW Dragon Quest Heroes I / II for Nintendo Switch square Enix
twenty four PS4 BLUE REFLECTION Sword of a girl dancing in vision (limited edition included) KOEI TECMO GAMES
twenty five Wii U Minecraft: Wii U Edition Microsoft
26 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo
27 SW Puyo Puyo Tetris S Sega Games
28 3DS Drink with a cute pet! M 
Wannyan & Mini Mini Animal		 Nippon Columbia
29 3DS With Pochi! Yoshi wool world (including included version) Nintendo
30 Vita Axel World VS Swords Art · Online 
Millennial Dusk		 BANDAI NAMCO 
Entertainment
31 Vita BLUE REFLECTION Sword of a girl dancing in vision (limited edition included) KOEI TECMO GAMES
32 PS4 Rainbow Six Siege Ubisoft
33 PS4 ZERO ESCAPE 9 hours 9 persons 9 doors 
good people Shibowdes double pack		 Spike Chunsoft
34 3DS Kirby Robo Bo Planet of the Star Nintendo
35 3DS Miitopia (Meatpia) Nintendo
36 PS4 Final Fantasy XV (Limited Edition, including included version) square Enix
37 3DS Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 
Professional		 square Enix
38 3DS I make sweet spotless unevenness Nippon Columbia
39 PS4 Lipkis (limited edition included) Entergram
40 3DS Doraemon Nobita's South Pole Kachikochi Great Adventure Flu
41 PS4 Senran Kagura PEACH BEACH SPLASH (limited edition included) Marvelous
42 PS4 Axel World VS Swords Art · Online 
Millennial Dusk		 BANDAI NAMCO 
Entertainment
43 PS4 Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition SCE
44 Wii U Splatoon (including included version) Nintendo
45 PS4 Biohazard 7 Resident Evil 
(Including Grotesque Ver.)		 Capcom
46 PS4 Nio KOEI TECMO GAMES
47 Vita Super Robot Battle V (limited edition included) BANDAI NAMCO 
Entertainment
48 PS4 Call of Duty Black Ops III (Including included version) SCE
49 SW Makai Senki Disgaea 5 Nippon Ichi Software
50 3DS Manga family debut story Let's make a wonderful comic Nippon Columbia


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Vita vs. COMG Japan Sales Comparison

Mnementh on 21 April 2017
tak13 said:

This is not to claim that switch isn't perceived as 3DS successor too because of 3DS sales being unaffected by the switch launch...

It could just be that switch doesn't have 3DS bc ( as previous handheld consoles had with their successor ) , is expensive as a handheld console ( at least in comparison with 3DS, especially with 2DS which might be the reason for 3DS being yoy up ) , no handheld console ips yet ( MH, YW, PMN, AC), and it's hardware nature ( not as much portable as a handheld console lover would like, plus being a hardware that have some similarities with wii u, a handheld part with a wide screen and a stationary part), even though all these could make some to thing that's not also 3DS successor hah.

That's why I said 'yet' and 'it seems'. It is possible that later with more games and maybe a lower price more people transition from 3DS to Switch.



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SuperNova on 21 April 2017
Shadow1980 said:
SuperNova said:

That trajectory on the Switch though. I'd like to see the wii added to this since it was also severly supply contrained. Right now the Switch is definitively still selling out as soon as shipments come in. I hope we get an actual big Shipment for MK8D though.

Here's a comparison of the Switch with the previous two gens of Nintendo and PS:

It is worth pointing out that the Wii was a holiday release, but it still managed an impressive baseline after the holidays. It was incredibly front-loaded in Japan, though, even more so than in the West, peaking in 2007 as opposed to peaking in 2008 like it did in the West. Here's an annoted chart of Wii sales:

 

That impressive baseline rapidly dropped later that year before rebounding for the holidays and on into the first half of '08, before its baseline permanently dropped to below 40k/week in Q3. But even with those impressive early baseline numbers, it still pulled "only" 3.9M in all of 2007, whereas the 3DS sold 4.28M in 2011 despite having a far less impressive initial baseline:

Thanks! These are great!