By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming Discussion - Will Sony ever surpass Nintendo's total hardware shipment?

If you define foreseeable future as 5-10 years from now, it will be highly unlikely unless Nintendo stops producing consoles completely



NintenDomination [May 2015 - July 2017]
 

  - Official  VGChartz Tutorial Thread - 

NintenDomination [2015/05/19 - 2017/07/02]
 

          

 

 

Here lies the hidden threads. 

 | |

Nintendo Metascore | Official NintenDomination | VGC Tutorial Thread

| Best and Worst of Miiverse | Manga Discussion Thead |
[3DS] Winter Playtimes [Wii U]

Around the Network
mountaindewslave said:
Cloudman said:
If Nintendo products continue to sell poorly, along with Sony's good pace, it could happen, though it'd take several years, if the industry is still making hardware at that point, and not switch to streaming or something.

it would take like decades if Nintendo remains in the business.

even in recent times- when you combine Wii U + 3DS and compare it to Vita + PS4- yes, on average in the last few years Sony has sold more- but its not been a drastic amount hardware wise. 

The irony is people almost seem to imply that Sony made up huge ground in the last decade. the reality is Sony's BIGGEST gain in hardware (in comparison to Nintendo's own sales at the same times) would be from their inception with the PS1 until the end of the PS2 era.

PS1- 100 million sales, Nintendo 64 - like 30 million. Sure, no Sony handheld then, but a massive lead in the one department. Obviously the Gameboy Color sort of balances the totals for that gen though.

 

and if you take away the PS2/PSP generation then Sony's total hardware amounts nearly cut in HALF. Think about that for a moment, that one generation is almost HALF of Sony's entire hardware sales with 150+ million PS2's sold and 80 million PSP's sold, for a total of 230 million (out of their total of 500 million).

 

considering the Wii/DS generation Nintendo overall sold by far the most hardware (the DS was a PS2 like beast), and even this latest gen with the 3DS (at, what 65 million sales reported by Nintendo?)- Nintendo just has not been losing that much ground.

when you directly look at, say, Wii U comparison charts- it deceptively seems so. But hardware sales include both handhelds and home consoles. And even this Wii U / 3DS period they've been keeping the hardware tallies from changing that much (in terms of Sony vs Nintendo proportions of total sales). After all this latest gen Sony and Nintendo have been pretty much inverse, with one killing it on the home console market and the other continuing to boss the handheld market.

Like one of the first posts suggests- Nintendo would need to essentially entirely drop from the game for Sony to hope to catch them in hardware. And even if Nintendo did drop out tomorrow it would probably take like 2 more generations for Sony to catch up 

the problem is that in even the weakest recent generation Nintendo still has pushed like 75 million+ systems. Sony has done marginally better when you look at both of their hardware markets (with the Vita filling the Wii U role).

 

Can't emphasize enough that Sony has not really been gaining much in the last few gens on Nintendo in terms of hardware sales but rather that the PS2/PSP era was primarily responsible for a lot of their tally today. 230 million hardware from that gen from Sony versus Nintendo getting like less than half of that with the Gamecube/GBA

I should have rephrased my comment to at least a decade, or even more. Although I feel it could be very unlikely for it to happen, there is always a slim chance of it happening, no matter how small. I don't see it happening in a forseeable future though.



 

              

Dance my pretties!

The Official Art Thread      -      The Official Manga Thread      -      The Official Starbound Thread

Anyway the reason I created this thread is because both company are now a single platform company so they don't have another platform to lean on. While Switch sold very well I don't think it will reach the PS4 level so Sony would be still ahead of Nintendo this gen. Assuming Sony will always have a lead each year (which it already does for now) It will have a chance to surpass Nintendo total shipment. The problem is the current gap is too large but hey,it's not impossible right?



A handheld gamer only (for now).

RolStoppable said:
Vor said:

 

Considering the sales predictions and opinions that people have voiced regarding Switch, we are witnessing another Wii right now. So that's a terrible assumption to make.

Yeah I just don't see the Switch have more than 200k baseline, especially at the current price. But hey, I'd love to be wrong.



A handheld gamer only (for now).

Vor said:
RolStoppable said:

Considering the sales predictions and opinions that people have voiced regarding Switch, we are witnessing another Wii right now. So that's a terrible assumption to make.

Yeah I just don't see the Switch have more than 200k baseline, especially at the current price. But hey, I'd love to be wrong.

Well... the PS4 has a 200k baseline. That wouldn't be too bad.



Around the Network

The only chance Sony has is if Nintendo goes out of business.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

There seems to be a weird amount of tension in this thread...I don't really get why to be honest.

Anyways, it seems unlikely. Mostly I think because Sony is likely done with handhelds, so they're going to be pretty much totally dependent on home consoles.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

WagnerPaiva said:
The only chance Sony has is if Nintendo goes out of business.

It unlikely that Nintendo will go out of business anytime soon.  But, there is at least some chance that they will exit the hardware business in the near future.  The Switch's early sales numbers are making that seem less likely.  But, a year ago most of us would have put the odds of Nintendo exiting hardware within 5 years at about 50%



Vor said:
Anyway the reason I created this thread is because both company are now a single platform company so they don't have another platform to lean on. While Switch sold very well I don't think it will reach the PS4 level so Sony would be still ahead of Nintendo this gen. Assuming Sony will always have a lead each year (which it already does for now) It will have a chance to surpass Nintendo total shipment. The problem is the current gap is too large but hey,it's not impossible right?

It's pretty much a superfluous question, though.  When you enter a market, you're not going, "oh, man, I hope we can catch up to the units our competitor sold before we arrived."  Instead, you're thinking about how you can sell more than them in the future.

I think a more meaningful question would be how Playstation and Nintendo will stack up in units sold from here on out.  It looks like Sony has left the handheld market and Nintendo is combining markets, which will probably result in a loss of volume potential for both.



I put consoles and handhelds in a different category. Question is will Nintendo ever surpass Sony in consoles. Besides Nintendo no one has really gone all out in the handheld market. Sony dominates consoles and Nintendo dominates handhelds