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Yes, I find it reasonable. 186 37.73%
 
No, I find it is a stupid idea. 307 62.27%
 
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gtaguidelng said:
Master Race Pirates are the real Winners if this happens,

Exactly, gamers could spend less money on videogames so they can spend more money on hardware upgrades. Thanks for further proving my point.



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Azuren said:

Except it's still the butt of many  jokes. 

 

And good on you, but the fact is most people don't use multiple clients and likely will continue to simply use Steam. They might go to other clients for their exclusives, but not other games. 

 

As usual, you seem to prefer missing the point. I wasn't saying Sony would make one, I was giving two scenarios that would result in Sony games on PC.

 

Lack of credentials and lack of contacts are the two most obvious and glaring ones. Doesn't change the fact that Sony doesn't put their games on PC and doesn't seem to have plans to. I'm only giving reasons to explain why they don't and why they likely won't in the future.

Steam is still the butt of both jokes and memes out there to this day:

CSGO skin prices are an absolute joke.

 

The mythical HL3 that will never come, that's haha funny by now right?.

 

Paid mods, because we clearly wanted those:

 

Steam gamepad, which is hardly being bought anywhere enar the amount that the DS4 and X1 gamepads are:

The biggest butt of the joke with Steam has to be Greenlight. Even they know it's an issue that eneds to be sorted out, yet they are too lazy to bother working on it asap due to concerns for just making more money as usual.

If Origin is a joke, then Steam is the laughing stock, but either way both are making money from their respective bases.

 

The thing is, multiple people do inf act use multiple clients, otherwise said multiple clients would have long since died and gone the way of the dodo. People are using Uplay because it's made a requirement once you buy any Ubisoft game from Steam. Want to buy a Blzizard game?, you have to use B.net client for that. Want to play any of EA's latest games?, gotta use Origin etc.

People will use a client if it actually has some benefits to it. As long as it's not the worst client in all of history (we're talking so bad that it's spat on 24/7, never improves and has the lowest user count known to  man), people will make use of it.

 

You seem to miss mine in the process, but I digress. We're talking about Sony tossing games on PC, so a client would be the main choice here, like the other companies have done so far. I doubt streaming via PSnow will ever surpass Steam and the otehr clients, but making a store to compete with great features would make for a nice start and give them solid ground to fight on.

You give your reasons and everyone else is giving theirs on why they would/should at the end of the day.



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Barkley said:

No because Sony make the best hardware, and I like to play on consoles. Nintendo make the worst hardware imo, so them going third party is an excellent idea for gamers.

Why don't we revert to Communism while we're at it, so that the consumer only has 1 choice of 1 brand per item.  Sounds lovely.... Not.



Chazore said:

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Except Steam is the butt of jokes because that's what happens to those on top. You can argue and defend other clients all you want, but I don't see anyone losing their shit over Origin Summer Sales. Yeah, you need to use Uplay/B.net/Origin to play Ubisoft/ActivisionBlizzard/EA games, buy as long as people return to Steam to purchase the rest of their libraries (which it would seem an overwhelming majority does), then Sony's business strategy wouldn't work on PC.

 

As far as console manufacturers are concerned, only one of three current manufacturers has done so.

 

And hey, something we can agree on: PSNow will never be truly successful (at least not with the Internet as slow as it is).



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Azuren said:

Chazore said:

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Except Steam is the butt of jokes because that's what happens to those on top. You can argue and defend other clients all you want, but I don't see anyone losing their shit over Origin Summer Sales. Yeah, you need to use Uplay/B.net/Origin to play Ubisoft/ActivisionBlizzard/EA games, buy as long as people return to Steam to purchase the rest of their libraries (which it would seem an overwhelming majority does), then Sony's business strategy wouldn't work on PC.

 

As far as console manufacturers are concerned, only one of three current manufacturers has done so.

 

And hey, something we can agree on: PSNow will never be truly successful (at least not with the Internet as slow as it is).

Either way, Steam is the butt of the joke because of what it does and doesn't do, just like EA is the butt of it's own jokes for what it doesn't do vs what it does half the time. Both have their ups and downs at the end of the day.

I'm not even defending the other clients at all, just merely pointing out that people actually do use them, make fun of them and talk about them in general. I've no allegiance with any client out there. 

Actually I quite liked the last sale Origin had, because it had me going for all of BF4's DLC and getting some free to boot. Also getting the TF1 DLC for next to nothing as well as the SWBF Season pass for cheap as well. On the house program also gave me games I've wanted for years for nothing like Red Alert 2 and Theme Hospital. 

I'd say Steam sales have been becoming lacklustre over the years, gone are the days of flash and daily sales, replaced entirely with fixed sales that hardly change throughout the given sales event date. Now I mostly visit other vendors for cheaper prices like GMG, bundle sites or even DRM free like GoG. There are plenty of folk around the ent that feel as if Steam sales has lost it's spark and has become more of the same, but that hasn't stopped some of us from going elsewhere and finding better deals, that's the beauty of competition on PC, you are able to go find better deals somewhere else, rather than being confiend to a single store for the rest of your life. 

 

Sony's can work if they actually take pages from Steam's book. MS ignored taking pages and thought they had it all figured out, look where that landed them. EA took their ball and went home, then shat the bed for a few years and to this day they still let some of their IP's rot, so that's on them, not the market. Ubisoft has some weird symbiotic relationship with Steam, where ie wants people to use it's client, yet doesn't pull and EA and thus doesn't feel like it ever needs to improve.

As long as you take the good from the bad and plan accordingly, you can actually make something of yourself, rathert han taking what you think is the good end executing it in a poor fashion, then blaming the entire market than your own effort (really though, has blaming the market ever helepd anyone, is it right to blame others than your own effort 99% of the time?).

 

Yeah, I don't see PSnow taking off as much and going by the article and thread on Digital sales, some gamers here fear the digital age and game onwership, so they should be fearful of PSnow since you are paying to stream a game for a limtied time and thus you won't even have a slither of ownership to streaming said game. 

 

I do think Sony can make it though, just as long as they take the good parts of Steam, the good and bad times and then learn from them. Don't pull an MS and get super cocky and desire to wall people in, that lets off red flags way too early on in the game and sets up a bad image for the future.



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CGI-Quality said:
Snoopy said:
Not going to happened. Playstation is what is keeping Sony as a company alive right now.

Negative

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-07-01-sonys-entire-future-now-rests-on-playstation



Sony games? eww disgusting tbh



Pemalite said:
gtaguidelng said:

Pirates will have earlier access though unlike waiting years for a stable emulator. 

After a month or two, sales are pretty irrellevent anyway. And PC DRM schemes like Denuvo have combated that fairly well.

Besides. Piracy rates aren't that problematic on PC anymore, Steam solved that issue, just like iTunes solved the music piracy issue.

uh, what?! Just because someone offers an easier method for accessing a product, doesn't mean that people downloading it illegally isn't a problem. People still download games and music at incredibly high rates. I don't see how that's arguable.



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CGI-Quality said:
Snoopy said:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-07-01-sonys-entire-future-now-rests-on-playstation

That's outdated. Also, if you checked my source, the other divisions, combined, rake in more than PlayStation. So their business can't solely depend that sector. You probably meant that PlayStation brings in the most. As of the latest quarter, this was true. However, combined, the other sectors bring in more. 

That's pretty much semantics. PS is the pillar of the company at the moment. It won't always be more profitable than their financial services division, but it's the global face of the company.



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outlawauron said:
Pemalite said:

After a month or two, sales are pretty irrellevent anyway. And PC DRM schemes like Denuvo have combated that fairly well.

Besides. Piracy rates aren't that problematic on PC anymore, Steam solved that issue, just like iTunes solved the music piracy issue.

uh, what?! Just because someone offers an easier method for accessing a product, doesn't mean that people downloading it illegally isn't a problem. People still download games and music at incredibly high rates. I don't see how that's arguable.

I never said it wasn't a problem. I just said that it's been proven time and again to be irrellevent from a sales perspective.
The Piracy rate is also neglible these days. (Thanks Steam.)



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