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Switch lifetime figures?

12-15 million 72 7.05%
 
15-20 million 58 5.68%
 
20-25 million 78 7.64%
 
25-30 million 119 11.66%
 
Way more than the above 694 67.97%
 
Total:1,021
zorg1000 said:
Rem87919394 said:

Those games aren't going to hurt PS4 sales. The lack of 3rd party will hurt Switch. You can't argue that if games like GTA, RDR, a real COD, etc wouldn't help Switch sales. You can argue wii was a rare success. Nintendo console sales have gone down since the original Nintendo with wii being the exception. That's not bashing Nintendo. It's just the truth. I like Nintendo games for the most part but buying a system just to play Nintendo games isn't enough for me. Just my opinion

yes you can argue that lacking the big AAA western multiplats wont help Switch since no successful Nintendo device has every relied on them. The 2 Nintendo consoles that had the best multiplat support also happen to be Nintendo's 2 worst selling consoles.

With the rare exception, multiplats have really never been a factor in Nintendo's successs. the fact is that Nintendo has been successful many times without those games and has never been successful with them.

Rem87919394 said:

They were massive success stories. Their successors weren't compared to them

No sane person would ever call GB & GBA anything but massive successes. Its only compared to DS/PSP that this generation fell massively short.

Not true, the original Nintendo and Super Nintendo had amazing 3rd party support. A lot better than n64, GameCube, wii and Wii U.



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Rem87919394 said:
zorg1000 said:

yes you can argue that lacking the big AAA western multiplats wont help Switch since no successful Nintendo device has every relied on them. The 2 Nintendo consoles that had the best multiplat support also happen to be Nintendo's 2 worst selling consoles.

With the rare exception, multiplats have really never been a factor in Nintendo's successs. the fact is that Nintendo has been successful many times without those games and has never been successful with them.

No sane person would ever call GB & GBA anything but massive successes. Its only compared to DS/PSP that this generation fell massively short.

Not true, the original Nintendo and Super Nintendo had amazing 3rd party support. A lot better than n64, GameCube, wii and Wii U.

3rd party support =/= AAA western multiplats. The type of games that are the primary system movers on PS/XB have either never been on Nintendo or never been a big deal for Nintendo.

All of Nintendo's successful platforms had good-great 3rd party support but the big sellers primarily consisted of exclusive titles, not multiplat titles.



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Rem87919394 said:
LipeJJ said:

1- What competition did the Gameboy and the Gameboy Advance have? I asure you it was weaker competition than PSP (DS) and Vita (3DS).

2- The 3DS sold 65m so far. It's still selling well (actually up YoY) and will surely be over 70m when the fiscal year ends. They will still keep producing them, and will probably have some games coming out as well. 75m is a very doable number. That's in line with that the Gameboy Advance sold (83m) with less competition. So yeah, the 3DS is a success.

I never said it wasn't a success. I said compared to the other handhelds it's not a "massive success". People were predicting 100 million for the 3ds a few years back 

Yeah, it's not a "massive success", but it's still a success tbh. It will end up selling in line with the Gameboy Advance and I don't see how that's a sign that the market is shrinking. 



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LipeJJ said:
Rem87919394 said:

I never said it wasn't a success. I said compared to the other handhelds it's not a "massive success". People were predicting 100 million for the 3ds a few years back 

Yeah, it's not a "massive success", but it's still a success tbh. It will end up selling in line with the Gameboy Advance and I don't see how that's a sign that the market is shrinking. 

Alot of people cant seem to tell the difference between shrinking and shrank.

Nobody will deny that 3DS/Vita is a large decrease from DS/PSP but that doesnt necessarily mean the market is shrinking, that means it shrank. We wont be able to tell if its still shrinking until we see the sales of future handheld gaming devices.



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zorg1000 said:
LipeJJ said:

Yeah, it's not a "massive success", but it's still a success tbh. It will end up selling in line with the Gameboy Advance and I don't see how that's a sign that the market is shrinking. 

Alot of people cant seem to tell the difference between shrinking and shrank.

Nobody will deny that 3DS/Vita is a large decrease from DS/PSP but that doesnt necessarily mean the market is shrinking, that means it shrank. We wont be able to tell if its still shrinking until we see the sales of future handheld gaming devices.

Exactly. We need to wait to compare. But so far, this gen is set to end above GBA's gen.



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Alkibiádēs said:
And Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey aren't coming to the PS4 and XBONE. All those games could easily surpass 10 million copies sold. Pretty good for exclusive titles on a new console.

Hopefully Arms will be as successful as the first Splatoon was as well.

Why do people continue to name the 1st party games when the thread is about 3rd party games? What exactly is the point of brining them up in this manner?



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zorg1000 said:

We wont be able to tell if its still shrinking until we see the sales of future handheld gaming devices.

Buddy, there ain't gonna be no "future handheld gaming devices." Who's gonna make one?



the_dengle said:
zorg1000 said:

We wont be able to tell if its still shrinking until we see the sales of future handheld gaming devices.

Buddy, there ain't gonna be no "future handheld gaming devices." Who's gonna make one?

Switch.......



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TheBlackNaruto said:
Alkibiádēs said:
And Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey aren't coming to the PS4 and XBONE. All those games could easily surpass 10 million copies sold. Pretty good for exclusive titles on a new console.

Hopefully Arms will be as successful as the first Splatoon was as well.

Why do people continue to name the 1st party games when the thread is about 3rd party games? What exactly is the point of brining them up in this manner?

Games are games, most people dont care if its 1st, 2nd or 3rd party, if it interests them than that is all that matters.

the point is that people constantly say Nintendo is missing out on various games and these people are pointing out that it goes both ways.

PS/XB have hundreds of games not on Nintendo devices just like Nintendo devices have hundreds of games not on PS/XB.



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RolStoppable said:
zorg1000 said:

Switch.......

Things are going to be difficult.

What did Iwata say? NX will redefine what a video game platform is. That goal has certainly be accomplished. The Nintendo handheld is gone and the Nintendo home console is gone, yet Nintendo is still in the handheld and home console market.

yep, its a hybrid which means it still counts as a "handheld gaming device" as well as a "home console".



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