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Switch lifetime figures?

12-15 million 72 7.05%
 
15-20 million 58 5.68%
 
20-25 million 78 7.64%
 
25-30 million 119 11.66%
 
Way more than the above 694 67.97%
 
Total:1,021
zorg1000 said:
LipeJJ said:

1- What competition did the Gameboy and the Gameboy Advance have? I asure you it was weaker competition than PSP (DS) and Vita (3DS).

2- The 3DS sold 65m so far. It's still selling well (actually up YoY) and will surely be over 70m when the fiscal year ends. They will still keep producing them, and will probably have some games coming out as well. 75m is a very doable number. That's in line with that the Gameboy Advance sold (83m) with less competition. So yeah, the 3DS is a success.

Ya too many people act as if the DS/PSP generation was the norm and not a huge increase over previous handheld generations.

Not only that, people also seem to forget the GB sold 118 million in 12 years.



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Rem87919394 said:

It's selling ok now. Its now being outsold by x1. As I said compared to their other handhelds the numbers aren't good. The handheld market is strinking

Why do people keep saying things like this as if a 6-year-old console should be keeping pace with a 3-year-old console?

Isn't 70 million sales in a struggling market more impressive than 70 million sales in a flourishing market?

Why does Sony get a pass on the Vita?



the_dengle said:
Rem87919394 said:

It's selling ok now. Its now being outsold by x1. As I said compared to their other handhelds the numbers aren't good. The handheld market is strinking

Why do people keep saying things like this as if a 6-year-old console should be keeping pace with a 3-year-old console?

Isn't 70 million sales in a struggling market more impressive than 70 million sales in a flourishing market?

Why does Sony get a pass on the Vita?

Consoles and handhelds are different. I don't see what you're arguing. It's a fact the handheld market is strinking. Sony doesn't support handhelds like they do their consoles. How do you argue against this? They're facts. Another fact, vita is a failure lol



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GoOnKid said:

Are these actual quotes? I remember Yamauchi to be a friend of open and honest talk, but these are ... almost insulting. xD

That's one way to put it.

B. Gates: "If Hiroshi Yamauchi calls, he will be directly transferred to me"

H. Yamauchi: “Everyone agrees that Bill Gates is a great businessman, but he’s only human. There is one thing he knows nothing about, and that’s games.  If you know nothing about sumo, you can’t expect to take on a Yokozuna"

"There are a lot of people who really do not know about games in the industry. Especially one big company in the USA thinks that it can use a lot of money to surround itself with software companies and accomplish what Nintendo has done."

"I don’t think the Xbox will do very well in Japan. The same old genres and development methods still work in America, but they won’t interest the more discriminating gamers of Japan."

If he said that early, it was a concise, but really brilliant analysis and prediction, teh Analyst God Pachter should take note.



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Rem87919394 said:
Alkibiádēs said:
And Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey aren't coming to the PS4 and XBONE. All those games could easily surpass 10 million copies sold. Pretty good for exclusive titles on a new console.

Hopefully Arms will be as successful as the first Splatoon was as well.

Those games aren't going to hurt PS4 sales. The lack of 3rd party will hurt Switch. You can't argue that if games like GTA, RDR, a real COD, etc wouldn't help Switch sales. You can argue wii was a rare success. Nintendo console sales have gone down since the original Nintendo with wii being the exception. That's not bashing Nintendo. It's just the truth. I like Nintendo games for the most part but buying a system just to play Nintendo games isn't enough for me. Just my opinion

yes you can argue that lacking the big AAA western multiplats wont help Switch since no successful Nintendo device has every relied on them. The 2 Nintendo consoles that had the best multiplat support also happen to be Nintendo's 2 worst selling consoles.

With the rare exception, multiplats have really never been a factor in Nintendo's successs. the fact is that Nintendo has been successful many times without those games and has never been successful with them.

Rem87919394 said:
zorg1000 said:

Ya too many people act as if the DS/PSP generation was the norm and not a huge increase over previous handheld generations.

They were massive success stories. Their successors weren't compared to them

No sane person would ever call GB & GBA anything but massive successes. Its only compared to DS/PSP that this generation fell massively short.



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Rem87919394 said:

Consoles and handhelds are different. I don't see what you're arguing. It's a fact the handheld market is strinking. Sony doesn't support handhelds like they do their consoles. How do you argue against this? They're facts. Another fact, vita is a failure lol

I said as clearly as can possibly be said that 70 million sales in a shrinking market is more impressive than 70 million sales in a healthy market. How did you read that as "the handheld market is not shrinking?"

I'm saying that if the PSP was a successful console - and it was - then the 3DS, being released in a diminished handheld market, must also be a success. And trying to excuse Sony's colossal failure with the Vita with "they weren't even trying" (the kind of weak arguments children make when they lose) is a disservice to their success with the PSP.

It's cute that NOW you say handhelds and consoles are different, when your previous post was literally comparing 3DS and XBO sales.



Rem87919394 said:
the_dengle said:

Why do people keep saying things like this as if a 6-year-old console should be keeping pace with a 3-year-old console?

Isn't 70 million sales in a struggling market more impressive than 70 million sales in a flourishing market?

Why does Sony get a pass on the Vita?

Consoles and handhelds are different. I don't see what you're arguing. It's a fact the handheld market is strinking. Sony doesn't support handhelds like they do their consoles. How do you argue against this? They're facts. Another fact, vita is a failure lol

If smartphone kill handhelds, can't Switch just turn into a tablet to put them off the scent?

Can't it also jump into it's dock and pretend to be a home console?

This gen should put the 'smartphones killed handhelds' myth to rest once and for all.



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Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

It's smart devices that should be fearing Nintendo not the other way round.

Always suprises me when gamers are well aware that 'waggle' and kinect had a limited use due to the lack of buttons yet they still think Nintendo are going to be beaten by touchscreen games. I think it's called cognitive bias or something.

Music and video don't require dedicated controls. Games will always need them. Apple and android can't take over the whole gaming industry unless they start putting analogue sticks on the latest phone/tablets. Supporting controllers isn't enough as we've all seen on the PC.

Switch is more than capable of doing everything a tablet can do in regards to entertainment whether that's natively on the Switch or via screen mirroring. It also has a handy TV-out dock with it's own remote control so if/when Skype, FB, Netflix and the others make an appearance it becomes a better entertainment device than any tablet or smartphone.

Meanwhile Sony and MS are still fighting a pointless battle over the living room in an era when the TV itself might be dying.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

I've never said 3DS wasn't a success. I said compared to its predecessor it isn't. Is that not true? I said the handheld market is strinking. Stevie Wonder could see that. Also bringing up the oringinal gameboy is pointless. The original gameboy was an idea way ahead of its time. The 3ds isn't. The 3DS is a success. It should hit 75 million plus. People call the PS3 a disappointment and it sold over 80 million. See what I'm saying?



I also think the Switch will be a success. Especially if Nintendo focuses mainly on it. If it's going to hit those big numbers it'll need some good 3rd party support. Again handhelds and consoles are a different market. With that said. The 3ds did have decent 3rd party support