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Slownenberg said:
naruball said:

Wait, what? What are you basing this on?

Also, in what way is it a perfect second console for those who own a ps4/xb1?

Are those real questions??

Perceived value can be shown that it is still mostly sold out a month and a half after launch. Obviously people think it is well worth the $300 price tag. If it's perceived value wasn't at least $300 then it wouldn't have been anywhere near Nintendo's best launch ever.

And in what way isn't it the pefect second console? ps4 and xbone are like clones of each other, except that ps4 has more exclusives. So if you already have one of them, the best second console is obviously the thing that offers something different, which is the Switch. Not sure why you are questioning two very clear cut and dry statements that poster said.

Yes, the people who couldn't wait to own one think it's worth the price. Who would have thunk it? The people who bought a ps3 when it launched and broke all sorts of records also thought it was worth it.
What about the non-die hard fans, i.e. people who actually care about the price? That will be shown after the first few months in which mostly loyal fans buy them. So, no. A month and a half is by no means enough to draw that conclusion. As fot Ninty's best launch ever, you do realize that that there were more Switch consoles available than wii consoles at launch, right? How could wii beat it with fewer available systems?

Xbone and ps4 are nothing like clones. People tend to call them that for the simple fact that they share a great number of games, i.e. they get proper 3rd party support. The horror, I know...

Something different, doesn't mean something good or something "perfect" as you two call it. Plenty (not gonna say most, since I don't have any sources to back up such a claim) of ps4 owners have zero interest in nintendo ips so switch is the furthest thing from a perfect second console. It's like saying, you like basketball so more basketball won't offer something new so volleyball is a perfect second option. No, more basketball (and it the case of xbox and ps, as I said the exclusives are still very different) could be a better second option since I (and others) have zero interest in volleyball.



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Conina said:
Slownenberg said:

And in what way isn't it the pefect second console? ps4 and xbone are like clones of each other, except that ps4 has more exclusives. So if you already have one of them, the best second console is obviously the thing that offers something different, which is the Switch. Not sure why you are questioning two very clear cut and dry statements that poster said.

We had the same narrative with the same arguments for years that the Wii U is the "perfect second console".

Yup. We had a thread where a huge number of ps3/xb360 owners were saying they'd buy a wiiu before it launched. They called it the "perfect" second console. Not sure if they ended up buying one but even if they did, they sure didn't represent most gamers.

Nintendo IPs, with the exception of the wii/nds era, are for a specific audience.



Flilix said:
naruball said:

Wait, what? What are you basing this on?

Also, in what way is it a perfect second console for those who own a ps4/xb1?

PS4 and XOne are very similar consoles, with almost completely the same library. Few people own both.

Nintendo consoles on the other hand, often have an original design, and they have by far the best and most exclusives.

Sure, ok. I mean it's a lie, but let's pretend it's true for a second.

1. How few people are we talking about? Where are your sources?

2.a.Best is subjective.

b.Best doesn't mean it will sell well.

c.Best doesn't mean people will be interested in them. A person who's into comedy and doesn't care about drama, won't care about the "best" drama if he's looking for a comedy.

3. Define original design. How is Mario original design but Quantum Break isn't.



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120 million systems sold guaranteed in life time sales for the PS4. PS4 will be close to 70 million by the end of the year and 50 million more to add to its tally is a lock in for 120 million. How many sales will the Switch and Xbox One sell combined?



PS4 should win, and the Switch will do well enough

Xbox already have a good lead over the Switch



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naruball said:
Flilix said:

PS4 and XOne are very similar consoles, with almost completely the same library. Few people own both.

Nintendo consoles on the other hand, often have an original design, and they have by far the best and most exclusives.

Sure, ok. I mean it's a lie, but let's pretend it's true for a second.

1. How few people are we talking about? Where are your sources?

2.a.Best is subjective.

b.Best doesn't mean it will sell well.

c.Best doesn't mean people will be interested in them. A person who's into comedy and doesn't care about drama, won't care about the "best" drama if he's looking for a comedy.

3. Define original design. How is Mario original design but Quantum Break isn't.

1. Common sense. Sorry, no source found.

2. You're right, I should have said 'most popular'.

3. I was talking about the consoles, not the games.

I admit, saying that PS4 and XOne have almost completely the same library was a bit hyperbolic. However, they do have very similar libraries, espacially if you compare them to Nintendo consoles.
3 games out of the 30 best selling PS4 games are exclusives, 7/30 exclusives for XOne, 30/30 for 3DS and 27/30 for WiiU.



I think it will turn out to be PS4>>>>>XB1>>>Wii U then the Switch will just well with the Switch....one because it is 9th gen and 2 because it is a Hybrid and the only one soooooooo that was easy lol.



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Flilix said:
naruball said:

Sure, ok. I mean it's a lie, but let's pretend it's true for a second.

1. How few people are we talking about? Where are your sources?

2.a.Best is subjective.

b.Best doesn't mean it will sell well.

c.Best doesn't mean people will be interested in them. A person who's into comedy and doesn't care about drama, won't care about the "best" drama if he's looking for a comedy.

3. Define original design. How is Mario original design but Quantum Break isn't.

1. Common sense. Sorry, no source found.

2. You're right, I should have said 'most popular'.

3. I was talking about the consoles, not the games.

I admit, saying that PS4 and XOne have almost completely the same library was a bit hyperbolic. However, they do have very similar libraries, espacially if you compare them to Nintendo consoles.
3 games out of the 30 best selling PS4 games are exclusives, 7/30 exclusives for XOne, 30/30 for 3DS and 27/30 for WiiU.

1. Common sense is not an argument. In other words, no solid foundation and you very well could be wrong.

2. More popular is still problematic. You mean "better selling"? Because some nintendo ips sell better than ps/xb ones, some don't.

3. My bad.

Yes, and like I said, they have similar libraries simply because they have plenty of 3rd party support. Remove that (which NIntendo mostly doesn't have) and then you have two completely different libraries. Again, no solid foundation.

Why do only the best selling games matter in your comparison? The success of all these 1st and 3rd party games clearly show that ps4/xb1 owners have such a variety of tastes in games that all sorts of genres get to shine and make a profit.