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Qwark said:
RolStoppable said:
Is this the election where Erdogan can finally make his position of dictator official?

Yep if he wins this referendum it pretty much means whatever Erdogan says goes in Turkey. Which would also mean tourism from EU to Turkey would significantly decline. It wasn't great in 2016 but when he becomes dictator Turkey's economy will probably suffer.

Economy would suffer with a no aswell, the uncertainty what's next is hurting them. Economy wise and unemployment wise especially it is not doing well..

 







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Congratulations, Turkey! Erdogan is now your Putin!

Of course, whether that is a good thing or a bad thing will be decided by the flow of time.



 
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So this means he can be president for life now?

 

Barozi said:
That's much much closer than I thought. I was expecting a landslide victory for the yes camp so that's quite surprising.

It's quite remarkable that all recent big votings were close. Scotland, Brexit, US presidential elections and now this.



Qwark said:
RolStoppable said:
Is this the election where Erdogan can finally make his position of dictator official?

Yep if he wins this referendum it pretty much means whatever Erdogan says goes in Turkey. Which would also mean tourism from EU to Turkey would significantly decline. It wasn't great in 2016 but when he becomes dictator Turkey's economy will probably suffer.

Tourism is not a huge factor for the economy and it is already in huge decline for the last few years anyways. This won't change much for the people but Erdogan will keep his position for the rest of his life. Actually, the more suffering there is, more votes go to Erdogan so the economy getting worse works for him.



There is mass fraud reported on social media, videos emerged of empty ballot papers being cast with Yes votes, one photo of an official who took the fucking ballot box home to put his fake Yes votes in.

All the major cities voted No.

The No vote won, the majority dislikes Erdogan.



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Turkish said:
There is mass fraud reported on social media, videos emerged of empty ballot papers being cast with Yes votes, one photo of an official who took the fucking ballot box home to put his fake Yes votes in.

All the major cities voted No.

The No vote won, the majority dislikes Erdogan.

This must be painful as hell for you. Can't believe this is allowed to happen. The founder of turkey (sorry, I can never remember his name) must be rolling in his grave for what has happened today.



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konnichiwa said:
Qwark said:

Yep if he wins this referendum it pretty much means whatever Erdogan says goes in Turkey. Which would also mean tourism from EU to Turkey would significantly decline. It wasn't great in 2016 but when he becomes dictator Turkey's economy will probably suffer.

Economy would suffer with a no aswell, the uncertainty what's next is hurting them. Economy wise and unemployment wise especially it is not doing well..

 


Well he did lock up every judge and journalist which doesn't agree with him. So no wonder unemployment is rising especially since Turkey's main economic activity is severely suffering since 2015. The difference between 2015 and 2016 is astonishing so that probably explains a lot. It seems 2017 is going to be even worse since over 50% of the tourists in 2015 came from countries which are Nazi's facists and the enemy according to Erdogan.

 

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/turkey/tourist-arrivals



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Turkish said:
There is mass fraud reported on social media, videos emerged of empty ballot papers being cast with Yes votes, one photo of an official who took the fucking ballot box home to put his fake Yes votes in.

All the major cities voted No.

The No vote won, the majority dislikes Erdogan.

Sorry for your loss. Heart goes out to all of the moderates of Turkey, and I know they are the majority, having been there many times, it's way different from every other Islamic country I visited. Turkey was the one to look up to, truly a sad day.

Erdogan has been preparing for this moment for years as the hypocrites of the west stood by and watched him prisoning and oppressing every opposing figure. One can't help but feel angry.



michael_stutzer said:
Qwark said:

Yep if he wins this referendum it pretty much means whatever Erdogan says goes in Turkey. Which would also mean tourism from EU to Turkey would significantly decline. It wasn't great in 2016 but when he becomes dictator Turkey's economy will probably suffer.

Tourism is not a huge factor for the economy and it is already in huge decline for the last few years anyways. This won't change much for the people but Erdogan will keep his position for the rest of his life. Actually, the more suffering there is, more votes go to Erdogan so the economy getting worse works for him.

Between 2012 and 2015 the tourism industry was in fact growing in Turkey. After a series of terrorist attacks, the coupe and Erdogan lashing out at Europe it declined massively to an almost insignificant portion of the economy. 

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/turkey/tourist-arrivals

 

This industry is however very labourintensive so unemployment still takes a big hit from this industry declining further. Which Erdogan can blame on EU somehow. Which makes him even more popular with the yes voters which think EU is planning a new era crusade to Turkey. Anyway the AKP party is in general popular by the lower class. So if it goes worse with Turkey and he can successfully blame that on the rest of the world the support for him will become greater each year. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Qwark said:

Well he did lock up every judge and journalist which doesn't agree with him. So no wonder unemployment is rising especially since Turkey's main economic activity is severely suffering since 2015. The difference between 2015 and 2016 is astonishing so that probably explains a lot. It seems 2017 is going to be even worse since over 50% of the tourists in 2015 came from countries which are Nazi's facists and the enemy according to Erdogan.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/turkey/tourist-arrivals

In other words, the referendum is rigged.

Europe will miss the days in which Putin was their worst nightmare.