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JRPGfan on 14 April 2017
barneystinson69 said:
JRPGfan said:

Its just a matter of time before he'll have long-range ballistic missles. He will threaten and use them when he has them. What will the world do then if China doesn't budge?

Hes crazy but not suicidal.

He wont launch nukes unless pressured into it.

Point is, if China is giveing clear messages of being worried, and asking the US not to do anything, becuase it could all end really badly.

Maybe the US should just pull back those warships it has close to North Korea.

Theres nothing to be gained by the US pokeing the angry bear.



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barneystinson69 on 14 April 2017
JRPGfan said:
barneystinson69 said:

Its just a matter of time before he'll have long-range ballistic missles. He will threaten and use them when he has them. What will the world do then if China doesn't budge?

Hes crazy but not suicidal.

He wont launch nukes unless pressured into it.

Point is, if China is giveing clear messages of being worried, and asking the US not to do anything, becuase it could all end really badly.

Maybe the US should just pull back those warships it has close to North Korea.

Theres nothing to be gained by the US pokeing the angry bear.

Are you sure? Given how unstable he is, I wouldn't be surprised. People always assume that no one dare touch the US, but I really do not think NK thinks that way. So what does the world do if this does happen then?



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The_Yoda on 14 April 2017
KLAMarine said:
Nuke map for those interested: http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Very interesting, had no idea someone had made something like this.  Thank you for sharing.



brendude13 on 14 April 2017
OdinHades said:

Fun Fact: The Hiroshima bomb "Little boy" was 1,100 times as powerful as this bomb.

 

The tsar bomb, the biggest nuclear weapon ever dropped, was 5,000 times as powerul as little boy. Which would equal about 5.5 million MOABs.

Even funner fact: The asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs released 2 million times as much energy as the Tsar bomba, so about 10 trillion MOABs.



VGPolyglot on 14 April 2017
brendude13 said:
OdinHades said:

Fun Fact: The Hiroshima bomb "Little boy" was 1,100 times as powerful as this bomb.

 

The tsar bomb, the biggest nuclear weapon ever dropped, was 5,000 times as powerul as little boy. Which would equal about 5.5 million MOABs.

Even funner fact: The asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs released 2 million times as much energy as the Tsar bomba, so about 10 trillion MOABs.

Well, when that happens again we'll all be dead!



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Ganoncrotch on 14 April 2017
JRPGfan said:
So how many targets did it take out?

4 Targets, 2 Walmarts and a Starbucks.



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VGPolyglot on 14 April 2017
Ganoncrotch said:
JRPGfan said:
So how many targets did it take out?

4 Targets, 2 Walmarts and a Starbucks.

So, that's why there's no more Targets in Canada? The US bombed them all?



Ganoncrotch on 14 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Ganoncrotch said:

4 Targets, 2 Walmarts and a Starbucks.

So, that's why there's no more Targets in Canada? The US bombed them all?

Liquidation and Lawyers seem to have eliminated those Targets, perhaps the Canada launch was handled by Trump as a preemptive strike on Targets in the North so he wouldn't have to worry about a 2 pronged War effort.



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KLAMarine on 14 April 2017
JRPGfan said:
KLAMarine said:

That and more.

This makes no sense. If North Korea nukes Japan, Japan will retaliate by nuking the US?

What kind of logic is this?

If its the US that kicks off a war that goes with these types of weapons.... yes other countries could blame the US, if North korea uses such a weapon on them, because of the US's actions.

 

Basically you nuke North Korea, and because they cant reach the US, they ll have to resort by takeing their anger out on other nearby countries.

Its their threat.

You bomb us, we bomb your allies.

So a situation could go from US bombs North korea to China launches fires at the US, because they know their going to get hit by north korea soon, due to the american attack.

You cannot be serious.

So rather than bombing North Korea in anticipation of North Korea striking at China, China will go to war with the US rather than the North Korea that attacked them?

I should remind you China's relationship with the US, Japan, and South Korea is infinitely more lucrative than its relationship with North Korea.

JRPGfan said:

This is why I dont believe the US has any power to do anything to north korea.

Their leader is crazy, and if the US pushes, it could end really badly for everyone.

The US has the power to do a number of things. Problem is China's very wary of anything happening in the peninsula as are surrounding territories but rest assured that North Korea's actions against surrounding territories will come back to hit North Korea itself.

Ideally, a fight between the US and North Korea should be limited between North Korea and the US and if North Korea lashes out at US allies or other countries, North Korea will only make more enemies. North Korea is already very isolated as it is, politically and economically.



numberwang on 15 April 2017

I was wondering about the price tag of a MOAB which seemed to high, turns out the actual production cost a of a new bomb is 170K, not 16 or 340 million $. The higher numbers averaged the original research costs, which do not affect new productions.

https://archive.fo/Wzmlf