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VGPolyglot said:
KLAMarine said:

I understand that but Korean War's not over. Not a good idea to let North Korea get their hands on nukes.

It's too late for that. They already have nukes.

True. Delivery method is in the works now. I think it wise this be stopped.

JRPGfan said:
KLAMarine said:

No. We don't need to kill them. Just convince them that chasing after nuclear weaponry is not a noble pursuit.

They already have them. They just cant reach the US with them yet.

However if those battle ships the US has starts fireing at North Korea, they will return fire with small nukes and take out the ships.

China will get pissed, if the US starts fireing missiles that lead to north korean retaliating (self defense really).

It ll be a mess....  attacking North Korea would likely not result in any good outcome for anyone.

 

KLAMarine said:
A deserving target... North Korea could be next.

hope this is a joke.

China is against a nuclear North too but doing nothing gets no one anywhere. Years of doing nothing and North Korea continues its advance.



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KLAMarine said:
A deserving target... North Korea could be next.

Hopefully aimed straight at that annoying hair cut.



Well Trump did say he would bomb the fuck out of ISIS...



Goatseye said:
Sharu said:
Nice. USA had 15 of this bombs. Now one less. And 30 terrorists killed for 300 mln usd is a bit expensive, no?

Where did you get that 300 million figure at? Anyway, re-stocking is not an issue.

Yeah, I was wondering too. From what I've researched it costs 16 million to make a MOAB. 



KLAMarine said:
VGPolyglot said:

It's too late for that. They already have nukes.

True. Delivery method is in the works now. I think it wise this be stopped.

JRPGfan said:

They already have them. They just cant reach the US with them yet.

However if those battle ships the US has starts fireing at North Korea, they will return fire with small nukes and take out the ships.

China will get pissed, if the US starts fireing missiles that lead to north korean retaliating (self defense really).

It ll be a mess....  attacking North Korea would likely not result in any good outcome for anyone.

 

hope this is a joke.

China is against a nuclear North too but doing nothing gets no one anywhere. Years of doing nothing and North Korea continues its advance.

Its too late, they already have nukes.

What they "lack" is rockets that can travel around the globale and hit anywhere on earth.

So far they re trying to improve the range of their rockets, so they can have a viable threat, to diswade the US from invadeing them.

Its why they keep fireing rockets out towards japan, to remind people. "We can fire them further and further." is what their message is.

 

US has moved war ships close to north korea.

What will happend if the US uses their war-ships and starts fireing at north korea?

North korea will defende it self....  and I wouldnt put it past them, to nuke the american warships then that are out at sea, close to them.

self defense, they ll say.

 

This will result in a mess.

North korea will threaten, that if they get invaded they start fireing nukes at targets close to them.

Maybe it wont effect the US, but it could easily effect south korea / china.

What happends then?

South korea/japan/china tell the US if you guys start a nuke war, and get us nuked by proxy, we ll send some your way too.

It all goes out of hand.

 

You cant mess with nations that have nukes.

Its why all these crazy dictators want them, they know if they reach that point, it ll likely mean the US wont start messing with them.



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ironmanDX said:
  I wonder how many terrorists it actually killed. Also, how many innocents?

At least it's an known ISIS target. Hopefully no innocents were killed.

Here is what really happened (I wonder if any american news organisation reported that).

1. Prior to the bomb throw, afghan military contacted local tribesmen and told them to leave the area.

2. Afghan tribal leaders have confirmed that "almost all inhabitants have left the area".

3. Moabs are not depth penetrating bombs ("bunker breakers"). Basically one hell of a surface explosion, with complementing earthquake-like effects around ground zero.

So if there were any ISIS people left in the caves (which we don't know), some of them might have been killed or injured (certainly a few ears were blown out). The afghan goverment was quick to report that "36 IS fighters were killed". That is of course a complete fabrication, as the afghan governement has no clue what happens in the country (their range of influence ends roughly five meters past the city gates of Kabul).



bonzobanana said:
KLAMarine said:
A deserving target... North Korea could be next.

Hopefully aimed straight at that annoying hair cut.

That and more.

JRPGfan said:
KLAMarine said:

True. Delivery method is in the works now. I think it wise this be stopped.

China is against a nuclear North too but doing nothing gets no one anywhere. Years of doing nothing and North Korea continues its advance.

Its too late, they already have nukes.

What they "lack" is rockets that can travel around the globale and hit anywhere on earth.

So far they re trying to improve the range of their rockets, so they can have a viable threat, to diswade the US from invadeing them.

Its why they keep fireing rockets out towards japan, to remind people. "We can fire them further and further." is what their message is.

 

US has moved war ships close to north korea.

What will happend if the US uses their war-ships and starts fireing at north korea?

North korea will defende it self....  and I wouldnt put it past them, to nuke the american warships then that are out at sea, close to them.

self defense, they ll say.

 

This will result in a mess.

North korea will threaten, that if they get invaded they start fireing nukes at targets close to them.

Maybe it wont effect the US, but it could easily effect south korea / china.

What happends then?

South korea/japan/china tell the US if you guys start a nuke war, and get us nuked by proxy, we ll send some your way too.

It all goes out of hand.

 

You cant mess with nations that have nukes.

Its why all these crazy dictators want them, they know if they reach that point, it ll likely mean the US wont start messing with them.

This makes no sense. If North Korea nukes Japan, Japan will retaliate by nuking the US?

What kind of logic is this?



KLAMarine said:
bonzobanana said:

Hopefully aimed straight at that annoying hair cut.

That and more.

JRPGfan said:

Its too late, they already have nukes.

What they "lack" is rockets that can travel around the globale and hit anywhere on earth.

So far they re trying to improve the range of their rockets, so they can have a viable threat, to diswade the US from invadeing them.

Its why they keep fireing rockets out towards japan, to remind people. "We can fire them further and further." is what their message is.

 

US has moved war ships close to north korea.

What will happend if the US uses their war-ships and starts fireing at north korea?

North korea will defende it self....  and I wouldnt put it past them, to nuke the american warships then that are out at sea, close to them.

self defense, they ll say.

 

This will result in a mess.

North korea will threaten, that if they get invaded they start fireing nukes at targets close to them.

Maybe it wont effect the US, but it could easily effect south korea / china.

What happends then?

South korea/japan/china tell the US if you guys start a nuke war, and get us nuked by proxy, we ll send some your way too.

It all goes out of hand.

 

You cant mess with nations that have nukes.

Its why all these crazy dictators want them, they know if they reach that point, it ll likely mean the US wont start messing with them.

This makes no sense. If North Korea nukes Japan, Japan will retaliate by nuking the US?

What kind of logic is this?

If its the US that kicks off a war that goes with these types of weapons.... yes other countries could blame the US, if North korea uses such a weapon on them, because of the US's actions.

 

Basically you nuke North Korea, and because they cant reach the US, they ll have to resort by takeing their anger out on other nearby countries.

Its their threat.

You bomb us, we bomb your allies.

So a situation could go from US bombs North korea to China launches fires at the US, because they know their going to get hit by north korea soon, due to the american attack.

 

This is why I dont believe the US has any power to do anything to north korea.

Their leader is crazy, and if the US pushes, it could end really badly for everyone.



JRPGfan said:
KLAMarine said:

That and more.

This makes no sense. If North Korea nukes Japan, Japan will retaliate by nuking the US?

What kind of logic is this?

If its the US that kicks off a war that goes with these types of weapons.... yes other countries could blame the US, if North korea uses such a weapon on them, because of the US's actions.

 

This is why I dont believe the US has any power to do anything to north korea.

Their leader is crazy, and if the US pushes, it could end really badly for everyone.

Its just a matter of time before he'll have long-range ballistic missles. He will threaten and use them when he has them. What will the world do then if China doesn't budge?



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barneystinson69 said:
JRPGfan said:

If its the US that kicks off a war that goes with these types of weapons.... yes other countries could blame the US, if North korea uses such a weapon on them, because of the US's actions.

 

This is why I dont believe the US has any power to do anything to north korea.

Their leader is crazy, and if the US pushes, it could end really badly for everyone.

Its just a matter of time before he'll have long-range ballistic missles. He will threaten and use them when he has them. What will the world do then if China doesn't budge?

Why do you assume that he would use them? That's one sure-fire way of getting invaded and overthrown, which is definitely what they don't want.