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PS5 is 3-4 years away. PS5 will be more more powerful and take a loss first 2-3 years as usual.



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SegataSanshiro said:
PS5 is 3-4 years away. PS5 will be more more powerful and take a loss first 2-3 years as usual.

PS4 Hardware was sold at a profit after 6 months.



No matter the improvements Xbox will still lose in world wide sales though.



How is it too powerful for $399? An overclocked Jaguar, overclocked RX480 thats also in the PS4 Pro, launching a whole year later than it. The advanced cooling design they talk about has been in the original PS4 since 2013 when the Xbone had just a giant pc style cooler over the apu. It's why the PS4 was smaller and more powerful and had the psu in the system. Yet in 2017 it's revolutionary for the Scorpio.

This thing will be $399 or less.



Turkish said:
How is it too powerful for $399? An overclocked Jaguar, overclocked RX480 thats also in the PS4 Pro, launching a whole year later than it. The advanced cooling design they talk about has been in the original PS4 since 2013 when the Xbone had just a giant pc style cooler over the apu. It's why the PS4 was smaller and more powerful and had the psu in the system. Yet in 2017 it's revolutionary for the Scorpio.

This thing will be $399 or less.

Digital Foundry (Euro Gamer) - "PS4 Pro launched at £349/$399. Scorpio has a larger processor (the most expensive single part of any console), 4GB more memory, a faster hard drive, a UHD Blu-ray drive and a state-of-the-art cooling solution. All of these add cumulatively to the bill of materials and if I had to guess - and I'll stress that this isn't based on anything I might have heard on my visit - Project Scorpio is going to cost in the region of $499."

No the cooling solution in the Scorpio is not the same as the PS4.



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The Scorpio is not going to be 399 as it's a premium product that fills a niche. It won't have the volume to be profitable at 399. The ps5 won't have that problem as it will be the new standard console and can afford to start with a slight loss again as those early adopters are guaranteed to by a few games and/or extra controllers with the system.

The big upgrades will come from the next die shrink, new cpu perhaps 16 core, at least 16GB of hbm2 or better, plus SSD should be cheap enough by then to include in a console.



Barkley said:
Turkish said:
How is it too powerful for $399? An overclocked Jaguar, overclocked RX480 thats also in the PS4 Pro, launching a whole year later than it. The advanced cooling design they talk about has been in the original PS4 since 2013 when the Xbone had just a giant pc style cooler over the apu. It's why the PS4 was smaller and more powerful and had the psu in the system. Yet in 2017 it's revolutionary for the Scorpio.

This thing will be $399 or less.

Digital Foundry - "PS4 Pro launched at £349/$399. Scorpio has a larger processor (the most expensive single part of any console), 4GB more memory, a faster hard drive, a UHD Blu-ray drive and a state-of-the-art cooling solution. All of these add cumulatively to the bill of materials and if I had to guess - and I'll stress that this isn't based on anything I might have heard on my visit - Project Scorpio is going to cost in the region of $499."

No the cooling solution in the Scorpio is not the same as the PS4.

PS4 Pro launched a whole year earlier, things go down in price so it's not 1:1 to compare PS4 Pros 2016 BOM with Scorpios BOM using the same materials but overclocked a year later, even the Xbone S at $299 last year had a UHD drive in it so why should a Scorpio at $399 not have it.

The cooling is the same design as the original PS4 back in 2013, they just copy what Sony did.

Hell they even copied the motherboard layout

Some people just forget what kind of an engineering marvel PS4 was



Pinkie_pie said:
I think Scorpio will dominate globally. Sony will have to release ps5 that is as powerful as the scorpio early next year

Why? Did sony and nintendo announce they were pulling out of the console business? because that's the only way a Microsoft console will ever dominate.



FIT_Gamer said:
Depends on the hardware they choose to go with. In 3 years from now a 10 TF console could like still come in at $399.

Certainly possible, but lets remember 3 years later and all Sony came up with was... a faster CPU and about 2.4 TF. Which is currently sitting at $399.

Which would be good enough to do current graphics at 4K/60 fps with room to spare. So I would hope they achieve atleast that.



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Barkley said:

Digital Foundry - "PS4 Pro launched at £349/$399. Scorpio has a larger processor (the most expensive single part of any console), 4GB more memory, a faster hard drive, a UHD Blu-ray drive and a state-of-the-art cooling solution. All of these add cumulatively to the bill of materials and if I had to guess - and I'll stress that this isn't based on anything I might have heard on my visit - Project Scorpio is going to cost in the region of $499."

No the cooling solution in the Scorpio is not the same as the PS4.

The cooling is the same design as the original PS4 back in 2013, they just copy what Sony did.

Some people just forget what kind of an engineering marvel PS4 was

No it's not, the Scorpio uses vapor-chamber cooling, the PS4 does not...