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Forums - General Discussion - Man violently removed from United Airlines plane. ~Update~ United may have broken the law.

So i read many comments but I haven't read all of them here. The way I understand it is that the rule is for overbooking is before they board the plane not after boarding. The policy does not allow for forcing the removal of passengers after they have already boarded the plane. The rules do state you can not allow them to board the plane because of overbooking and offer compensation.



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johnsobas said:
So i read many comments but I haven't read all of them here. The way I understand it is that the rule is for overbooking is before they board the plane not after boarding. The policy does not allow for forcing the removal of passengers after they have already boarded the plane. The rules do state you can not allow them to board the plane because of overbooking and offer compensation.

The thing is that elder Asian male had a seat and had a boarding pass. I dont believe he was one of guys in overbooking queue. Even if he was overbooking, but hes already boarded. The UA somehow wanted to board their employees after all these and what they decided is to forcefully kick out random 4 guys on the airplane, what a crap.



Good on him for staying in his seat.



This shit is fucked up. I hope he sues their asses.



The airline is just incredibly stupid. They were being cheap and that is what they get for it. It was obvious that this scenario will delay the flight and every delay is a very expensive matter for any airline. They could've easily offered everyone $10,000. I'm sure at least 4 out of the 80 passengers would've took that offer.
Now they got an 2 hour delay, which alone causes them to lose more than $40,000, lawsuit, bad PR etc.

btw. the guy who dragged him out was already fired.



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Someone is about to get rich from the incoming lawsuit.



Interesting fact for those trying to defend United trying to get their own people on board the man was a Doctor needed to work the following day which is why he could not volunteer to leave save for the fact Airlines actually aren't allowed to remove you from a plane after you've boarded if you're not a health and safety issue.



Seriously, people here tell me they would comply with someone who picks them randomly to be removed from a plane for reasons that are neither their responsibility nor their fault?

Additionally they have been randomly picked by the people who's fault it was in the first place.

I don't think so.

The man did absolutely nothing wrong. He bought a ticket, he was assigned a seat and he was let on board.

Besides, if they used that bribe money to buy regular tickets on another airline, it would have probably been cheaper.



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SuperNova said:
Imaginedvl said:

The guy did not want to get out... What do you mean by time? I'm sorry but no, other people do not have to wait (what? hours? Days? Take another plane because of this parasite?) just because he decided to do not comply and give a finger to that same "society" with rules and authorities? And all the people on tthe plane shluld wait because of him, where is the decency towards all other passengers?

Decency also includes other people and the impact of his behavior... 

Good you talk about the society because it actually shows that now, some people really feel like you should respect them so much, not touch them, let them not comply with authorities and do whatever they want until "they" decide to move or comply... I'm sorry but this all wrong imo. Esp. after asking him multiple time with a lot of decency before

You keep acting like the airline hadn't royally fucked up here. They lied. The plane wasn't even overbooked. They just wanted to seat their own employees instead of paying costumers. Customers always take presedece over employees, but they decided to boot the customers off anyways AFTER they were already seated.

Just about everything about this was poorly handled and badly planned. They clearly don't know how to run their business.

And yes, they used unneccessary force on a man who had payed for a ticked and that posed no security risk. He wasn't pulling a gun on anyone, he was saying 'I'm going to call my lawyer.' at wich point they decided the best way to resolve the situation was to knock him out.

First of all, no I'm not "acting" in any way... I said multiple time that this is not even the problem here. United may be wrong in the way they overbooked the flight or whatever other reasons they had to remove 4 people from it. But again, that's not even the point...
Second, this has been seen before and explained multiple times, even if you have your own rules about how things are taking prescedence on others, 4 empployees means most likely that they were a crew for another flight resulting in a very bad chain reaction in delays etc for a LOT of people in another airport... I mean, it sucks for the guy but it happens and you coming out with your "lie" accusation will not change it. How do you know that? How do you know better than anyone else the reason United had to abosultly get those 4 employees to the other airport? 

The guy bought a ticket with a contract on it. I mean it sucks; I would HATE to have to -deplane for that too... Like really; I would be pissed.

But no matter what is the reason, at the end when cops are coming and ask you (first peacefully) to de-plane; you de-plane... You just do it and then you can fill a complain, sue the company or whatever... But you listen to the authorities.  



Imaginedvl said:
SuperNova said:

You keep acting like the airline hadn't royally fucked up here. They lied. The plane wasn't even overbooked. They just wanted to seat their own employees instead of paying costumers. Customers always take presedece over employees, but they decided to boot the customers off anyways AFTER they were already seated.

Just about everything about this was poorly handled and badly planned. They clearly don't know how to run their business.

And yes, they used unneccessary force on a man who had payed for a ticked and that posed no security risk. He wasn't pulling a gun on anyone, he was saying 'I'm going to call my lawyer.' at wich point they decided the best way to resolve the situation was to knock him out.

First of all, no I'm not "acting" in any way... I said multiple time that this is not even the problem here. United may be wrong in the way they overbooked the flight or whatever other reasons they had to remove 4 people from it. But again, that's not even the point...
Second, this has been seen before and explained multiple times, even if you have your own rules about how things are taking prescedence on others, 4 empployees means most likely that they were a crew for another flight resulting in a very bad chain reaction in delays etc for a LOT of people in another airport... I mean, it sucks for the guy but it happens and you coming out with your "lie" accusation will not change it. How do you know that? How do you know better than anyone else the reason United had to abosultly get those 4 employees to the other airport? 

The guy bought a ticket with a contract on it. I mean it sucks; I would HATE to have to -deplane for that too... Like really; I would be pissed.

But no matter what is the reason, at the end when cops are coming and ask you (first peacefully) to de-plane; you de-plane... You just do it and then you can fill a complain, sue the company or whatever... But you listen to the authorities.  

Good for you you don't care about your rights and blindfully listen to authorities, even when they're abused by the airline.

How much is violence worth to you? How far could the airline have gone with offering money to volunteers to deplane? Is $800 dollars already too much and violence is a better solution? Should they have offered $1600 first to find any takers? $5000?

The airline caused their own delay. They could have found nother way to get the employees there or call in other people for work for that day at the other location. They were in the wrong to deplane already boarded people. They created a bad situation and handled it even worse.