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Maybe he was carrying drugs.



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Hiku said:
Imaginedvl said:

The line is simple, when asked to de-plane... De-plane... You comply to any request esp. when issued by authorities... If you want to complain you do it AFTER.
So what do you think the police should do when someone refuses to move? They just let him in, right? Fuck the authorities because the dude feels like this is what's right for him? Can you see how this is a very dangerous point of view? 

It was an accident and he resisted and got hurt. They did not throw him on the harmrest. It is 100% his fault.

That's avoiding the question.
I'm talking about where the line is drawn for how he is to be removed. Would you be ok with them getting a chainsaw and cutting off his limbs?

Probably not. Your argument is not acknowledging that just because they are within their legal rights to claim his seat doesn't mean that any means are allowed. There's a line to be drawn for how a human beaing should be treated in this situation.
People think these cops crossed the line. That's what they're upset about.

The accident did not only occur because he resisted. It also occured because of how those cops decided to handle it. And yes they did throw him on it.
They're trained to handle people resisting. They know this happens. But this should not be the outcome when it's about a plane seat.

If 3 cops can't get one elderly man off a plane without bashing his skull in, they need to switch carreers and be replaced with people who can.
These three were incompetent.

No, I'm sorry but there is no line to be drawn there; the line stops when the person is 1) not comploying with authorities (wrongly or not) and then resisting, simple as that. There are only one way to remove him from the plane; pull him and drag him...

And again they did not bash his skull, HE did but actively resisting and then hurting himself... 

You ignored it but my analogy (somewhat extrem) with a dude pulling a gun on a cop and then being shot is the same... That during physically resisted and got hurt in the process... 100% his fault, the line is way before then when he decided to act like a complete idiot and resist cops...



How hard is it just to keep a row or two of designated seats for just such an occasion? This shit isn't a prison flight.

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This is 100% United fault for being shit at planning. I hope that guy sues.



Aeolus451 said:
shikamaru317 said:

lmao. That's what is considered violent? The only that was harmed was that guy's ego. Seems like some are just blowing that out of proportion for the clicks. 

Are you blind? Any time someone bleeds as the result of someone's actions, that's violence.



The employees should have second priority. There are specific seats for attendants and whatnot, so removing people from coach and first class is just so they can get employees from point A to point B.

Except it's not this guy's fault United overbooked beyond their employees, so why should hours plans be ruined in favor of those who work for the company? At my store, when a customer argues, they typically get their way (provided it's only 10% beyond standard protocol, of course). But an employee? They know the rules, and we throw the book at them when they want to do something that goes against company policy, even as a customer making a purchase.



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Imaginedvl said:

No, I'm sorry but there is no line to be drawn there; the line stops when the person is 1) not comploying with authorities (wrongly or not) and then resisting, simple as that. There are only one way to remove him from the plane; pull him and drag him...

And again they did not bash his skull, HE did but actively resisting and then hurting himself... 

You ignored it but my analogy (somewhat extrem) with a dude pulling a gun on a cop and then being shot is the same... That during physically resisted and got hurt in the process... 100% his fault, the line is way before then when he decided to act like a complete idiot and resist cops...

Do we live in a society where time > decency. There was no danger here, no reason to resort to pulling and dragging. It could have taken an hour to talk the man into leaving the plane, so what. Figure something out. It's nothing like pulling a gun on a cop. And when you lay hands on someone, you are responsible for the outcome, plain and simple.



United is going to get sued off their ass for this, this guy is going to get a giant fat settlement because no way they want this going to court. 

Overbooking is a shit policy by these airlines, it was only a matter of time before there was a PR blow up about it.

This almost happened to me on a flight, I had a connecting flight, and they were offering like $500 credit to stay in that city, but that wouldn't cover what I had paid for my hotel at my destination and the lost day of vacation.

Airlines should not be fucking selling tickets to people who make plans around those dates and then kicking people off the plane, especially in this situation where they even allowed the guy to board and be seated. 

Fuck United, I hope they get screwed royally in court over this, they are already taking it up the ass in the PR department right now as this has gone viral. This is not how you conduct business.