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VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
TheLegendaryWolf said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, because the logic should be "they're killing people, so why can't we?".

The 1400 civilians killed weren't targeted. The US military didn't just say"time to kill more innocents" no, you can thank ISIS cowards for using civilians as human shields every time the allied coalition tries to eradicate terrorists. It's unfortunate that so many civilians lost their lives but the cold hard truth is that it was inevitable. By your logic the US and the coalition should just leave ISIS alone to their devices and let them take over the country, not only endangering the citizens but also the humanitarian aids that are helping the injured civilians. 

The United States knew that they'd kill innocent people with those strikes. Also, why do you think that the United States cares that they're killing civilians? They massacred innocent civilians numerous times.



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TheLegendaryWolf on 09 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

The 1400 civilians killed weren't targeted. The US military didn't just say"time to kill more innocents" no, you can thank ISIS cowards for using civilians as human shields every time the allied coalition tries to eradicate terrorists. It's unfortunate that so many civilians lost their lives but the cold hard truth is that it was inevitable. By your logic the US and the coalition should just leave ISIS alone to their devices and let them take over the country, not only endangering the citizens but also the humanitarian aids that are helping the injured civilians. 

The United States knew that they'd kill innocent people with those strikes. Also, why do you think that the United States cares that they're killing civilians? They massacred innocent civilians numerous times.

I'm not saying they haven't, just saying they are not targeting civilians with the strikes. Fact of the matter is that ISIS are using civilians as cover since missles can't tell the difference once it strikes a target. Their foulplay is the reason the civilian count is so high.



VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
TheLegendaryWolf said:
VGPolyglot said:

The United States knew that they'd kill innocent people with those strikes. Also, why do you think that the United States cares that they're killing civilians? They massacred innocent civilians numerous times.

I'm not saying they haven't, just saying they are not targeting civilians with the strikes. Fact of the matter is that ISIS are using civilians as cover since missles can't tell the difference once it strikes a target. Their foulplay is the reason the civilian count is so high.

Still, they know that they're killing civilians, so it's not a valid excuse. The United States doesn't have to be there, they went there on their own volition, so they're responsible for any deaths that they cause.



Aura7541 on 09 April 2017
TheLegendaryWolf said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, because the logic should be "they're killing people, so why can't we?".

The 1400 civilians killed weren't targeted. The US military didn't just say"time to kill more innocents" no, you can thank ISIS cowards for using civilians as human shields every time the allied coalition tries to eradicate terrorists. It's unfortunate that so many civilians lost their lives but the cold hard truth is that it was inevitable. By your logic the US and the coalition should just leave ISIS alone to their devices and let them take over the country, not only endangering the citizens but also the humanitarian aids that are helping the injured civilians. 

It's a pretty big dilemna. If you want to avoid killing innocents, then you need to entirely remove yourself from the armed conflict. There's no other alternative, but that will lead to ISIS being able to do whatever the hell they want which will be really bad. Ideally, the US should do do whatever it can to avoid armed conflict, but alas Obama decided to get involved in Syria and here we are with Trump recently ordering missile attacks.



Nirvana_Nut85 on 09 April 2017
glimmer_of_hope said:

Nope we cant just leave the Middle East and have Isreal go at it alone. They are surrounded by Muslims that would invade every single day. I stopped caring after the word "oil" here we go again...........

You're seriously underestimate the Isreali army. If they were allowed to go full throttle the could easily take on almost every single middle eastern country at once. They are light years ahead in military technology and although undeclared, they have an estimated arsenal of 200-400 nukes.

They don't need the West meddling in Middle Eastern affairs and wasting billions of dollars. They can handle themselves.



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glimmer_of_hope on 09 April 2017
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

Nope we cant just leave the Middle East and have Isreal go at it alone. They are surrounded by Muslims that would invade every single day. I stopped caring after the word "oil" here we go again...........

You're seriously underestimate the Isreali army. If they were allowed to go full throttle the could easily take on almost every single middle eastern country at once. They are light years ahead in military technology and although undeclared, they have an estimated arsenal of 200-400 nukes.

They don't need the West meddling in Middle Eastern affairs and wasting billions of dollars. They can handle themselves.

Ummmm Egypt alone would hand Isreal the death blow



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VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
glimmer_of_hope said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You're seriously underestimate the Isreali army. If they were allowed to go full throttle the could easily take on almost every single middle eastern country at once. They are light years ahead in military technology and although undeclared, they have an estimated arsenal of 200-400 nukes.

They don't need the West meddling in Middle Eastern affairs and wasting billions of dollars. They can handle themselves.

Ummmm Egypt alone would hand Isreal the death blow

Are you forgetting that they have a peace treaty with Israel?



glimmer_of_hope on 09 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

Ummmm Egypt alone would hand Isreal the death blow

Are you forgetting that they have a peace treaty with Israel?

Ya that peace treaty will last forever eh? When shit hits the fan that means nothing. If Isreal was slaughtering Egypts Islamist interests, Egypt would pulverise Isreal. 



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VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
glimmer_of_hope said:
VGPolyglot said:

Are you forgetting that they have a peace treaty with Israel?

Ya that peace treaty will last forever eh? When shit hits the fan that means nothing. If Isreal was slaughtering Egypts Islamist interests, Egypt would pulverise Isreal. 

Like Egypt would invade a country with nuclear weapons.



glimmer_of_hope on 09 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
glimmer_of_hope said:

Ya that peace treaty will last forever eh? When shit hits the fan that means nothing. If Isreal was slaughtering Egypts Islamist interests, Egypt would pulverise Isreal. 

Like Egypt would invade a country with nuclear weapons.

You don't think Egypt can intercept a nuke? You think Isreal is the only ountry with an Iron Dome? Look at a map dude! You cant fight everyone at once, even if they were 1930s Germany....use logic not your fantasy "b b b but the underdog must win" 



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