OP has a point. Forza Horizon 3 the more recent Xbox One game of the two only ran @ 30 fps, 1080p (because of its bigger open world). So translated to Scorpio @ 4k... would mean same frame rate 30 fps, and probably similar ~66% draw from the graphics chip. Likewise, with settings on ultra, ~88% draw from graphics.
people dreaming about 30fps games to run at 60fps with that cpu are cute. Sure in its current state scorpio is on par with RX480 but when RX480 is paired with an i5 or an competent i3 processor, it leaves the scorpio behind. With the current Jaguar at 2.3 is bigger bottle neck to that gpu than PS4 pro.
mutantsushi said:
If Scorpio is already doing same/better (more stable) FPS, what point is there unless it takes 30fps game to 60fps? |
I'm sure they can get 1080p/30fps games to 1080p/60fps (if they develop the game with such an option in mind) even with the still shitty CPU. And that or something like that would be the performance mode for people who prefer that.
| taus90 said: people dreaming about 30fps games to run at 60fps with that cpu are cute. Sure in its current state scorpio is on par with RX480 but when RX480 is paired with an i5 or an competent i3 processor, it leaves the scorpio behind. With the current Jaguar at 2.3 is bigger bottle neck to that gpu than PS4 pro. |
Except games are going to be built with the lowest common deniminator in mind. That is the Playstation 4.
So if a game is built to operate at 30fps on the Playstation 4 with it's anemic 1.6Ghz jaguar CPU, then obtaining much higher framerates on a CPU operating at 700Mhz faster is a given right?
Don't forget that Scorpio does offload some processing typically done on the CPU, which does free up CPU resources for other tasks.... So the available CPU resources are larger than what the basic numbers imply.
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doesn't matter to me since i still don't have and not planning to get a 4K TV yet
but i'm not planning to get the Scorpio anyway 
| HokageTenshi said: doesn't matter to me since i still don't have and not planning to get a 4K TV yet but i'm not planning to get the Scorpio anyway |
I got my eye on Scorpio and even if I don't get a 4K TV.
Based on what we're hearing, Scorpio is going to add polish to 360 and non-Scorpio content. Better frame rates, no screen tear, 16x AF, potentially faster load times, games with dynamic resolution/graphics will stay at higher settings, etc. There are also game that will go for 60 fps and better graphics over resolution.
The gains are pretty significant even for 1080p screens.
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Pemalite said:
Keeping it in perspective, they achieved that with Xbox One levels of visuals... Which is nothing ground breaking. |
You missed the point. The GPU was capable of doing more and I'll add there is 3GB of RAM not being utilized.
Hence, there was room for 4K, 60 fps, AND better graphics.
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Mr Puggsly said:
You missed the point. The GPU was capable of doing more and I'll add there is 3GB of RAM not being utilized. Hence, there was room for 4K, 60 fps, AND better graphics. |
I think you have missed the point. If they are using different levels of visuals, then they aren't directly comparable are they?
Besides, even though Scorpio still had spare processing to increase visuals, some visuals are extremely demanding, Scorpio still may not have been able to achieve PC levels of Visuals.
But we have to give props where it's due. Scorpio is still a beast. For a console.
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Pemalite said:
I think you have missed the point. If they are using different levels of visuals, then they aren't directly comparable are they? |
You speak as if PC graphics is everything on highest settings. That isn't how the average PC player is experiencing high end games.
Does the average Steam user even have a PC at par or better than current 8th gen consoles? I doubt it.
Scropio is a powerful device, period. I wish there were pre-built gaming PCs on the market with that power for a measly $499.
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| Mr Puggsly said: You speak as if PC graphics is everything on highest settings. That isn't how the average PC player is experiencing high end games. Does the average Steam user even have a PC at par or better than current 8th gen consoles? I doubt it. |
That's not what this discussion is about.
| Mr Puggsly said: Scropio is a powerful device, period. I wish there were pre-built gaming PCs on the market with that power for a measly $499. |
Powerful? No. Mainstream? Yes. Most power console ever? Most certainly. Price? Who cares. PC can end up cheaper in the long term.
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