They also mentioned something about specific power regulation on the mobo for each piece of silicon. Still, with the specs of this console, this is really impressive and can't wait to find out more about everything that goes into achieving it.

I wasn't aware of vapour chamber tech. Clearly a leap from heat pipes I guess? I'll have to read up on it.

Of course the S is going to sell better.  No one is debating that.  My point is that the Scorpio will be competing with the Pro, not the OG PS4.  I don't think many people are that interested in a mid-gen upgrade.  But, those that are would most likely chose a Pro if there is a $100-$150 difference and the first one is just $299.  If the difference is larger, then forget about it.

Also, the Scorpio isn't going to do anything for their brand if it's bought by the same Halo fans that already bought the XBO for Halo, while pricing themselves out of most gamer's price range.  Doesn't help that Halo games will be playable on a PC, either.  And yes, it doesn't need to match the XBO sales, but it does need to sell several million to be a success.  Otherwise, they just wasted a bunch of money on R&D and production for little in return.

Simple answer for your second quote: PS2.  Best selling console and Sony was going to launch its successor just 5 years after its launch.  Only thing that stopped them was hitting a snag on the PS3 development, so it came out 6 years after.  Which would be the exact age the PS4 would be if the PS5 launches in 2019.  Just because the new console is out, doesn't mean sales for the much cheaper previous console dies.

To be fair, plenty of people were saying that for the Pro, too, choosing to stick with the OG PS4.  Most people, and sales will prove this, are just deciding to wait it out for next gen to game in 4K 30/60FPS.

And I find just as funny with XBO fans downplaying the PS4 gap, saying 900p, sometimes lower, is little difference from 1080p.  NOW, all of a sudden, specs and resolution matter, again, like they did last gen.

the only thing that could make a huge impact on industry is if it has windows 10 and users has full controll of it.
We could also install steam, and play steam games(they wouldnt run as well as the native scorpio games cos of optimization, and the value of still buying a game from MS store would still be there, running better, and steam and all other windows applications would be an option).
but it is not happening, so still not really needed, only a premium product for 4k owners only.

Scorpio is competing with the Playstation 4, Playstation 4 Pro, Switch, heck even with the Xbox One S.

I don't think you get it. Scorpio doesn't need to be cheap or in a gamers price range for it to do it's job.
Visit most gaming websites and the talk has been about the Playstation 4, most reviews are done with Playstation 4 copies.
Allot of advertising showcases the games on Playstation 4 or PC hardware because of their superior levels of fidelity.

Most graphics and performance comparisons  (Such as those done by Digital Foundry) show the Xbox One on bottom, Playstation 4 in the middle and Playstation 4 Pro on top, people then associate the Playstation Brand as being superior, Scorpio reverses all of that entirely.

Think about it, nVidia doesn't release the nVidia Titan X because it sells so many cards... They release it to be better than the competition... It's a Halo product.
The result is that, even if AMD has superior low-end or mid-range hardware, people associate nVidia as being technically superior... Even if they could never afford such a GPU.
When benchmarks are performed, it's usually with nVidia's high-end hardware on top of the list... That Titan X GPU or even the Geforce 1080 is essentially advertising for the entire product stack and that resonates with consumers.

I personally don't see any problem with having all Xbox One games on PC. If I like a game, chances are I get it on both platforms anyway.
I don't see consoles as a replacement for the PC or vice versa. I don't actually care about exclusives, I actually find them to be a con, not a pro.
I hate my games being restricted to a singular platform.

Whether mainline Halo will be released on PC in future remains to be seen... Halo Wars wasn't a mainline game, honestly I hope Halo 6 does come to PC.

Well. That's actually not a good example. Because the Playstation 3 launched a year later after the competition launched new consoles.

But you also need to keep in mind that this generation is unique, we have never had half-generation console releases like this, prior examples tend to become irrelevant due to that fact.

MS is not Nvidia.  They want to sell HW/SW, and at a profit.  Technically, so does Nvidia, but they need to seem like the best GPU maker to continue to get sales, even of their lower end cards.  But, do you honestly think if MS start losing a bunch of money on the Xbox HW because they are selling so few units, they are going to continue to make it?  Hell no.  They've already sucked so much funding out of the XBox division that it's apparent to even the most casual gamer.  Hell, even the reveal of the Scorpio is proof.  No huge hooray, just release the info and let DF deal with it.

And there's nothing wrong with them putting games on the PC if they want to sell more SW units.  But it sure isn't a positive anymore for buying the XBO.  To get EVERYTHING, you no longer need a XBO.  PC, PS4, and Switch.  I'm also pretty sure Halo 6 is coming to PC, since they announced all future games were Play Anywhere.

The PS2 is a bad example because the PS3 launched after its competition?  How does that make any sense?  Especially if you read where I stated that Sony wanted to launch it earlier, but ran into a development snag.  It wasn't by design that it came out after 6 years of the PS2 launch or after the competition.  And maybe we haven't had such overhauled mid-gen upgrades, but we have always gotten them.  It's not like they are selling so well Sony will want to delay the PS5, anyway.

Agreed. These guys were going crazy over one game having more grass than the other one. Shit was totally overblown and ridiculous.

No worthwhile exclusive---no buy. I will stick with PC/Switch/PS4. 

Direct X and game changer quotes please.

I am surprised by some people on the internet, tbh.
"It's what you expect a year la ter from the Pro" but "No way this is going to cost $399, not with that hardware!"
Eh? So what is it now? I think it's perfectly reasonable to think it's going to be $399 and it is a substantial upgrade for everyone who owns an XBO or a vanilla PS4 and it will be the most powerful system when it releases and potentially every game will look best on this console in the console space. Best performance, best graphics, best resolution.