Is the Scorpio next gen?

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think-man on 06 April 2017

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The performance equals a slow PC with a bad CPU and mediocre GPU. I wouldn't call that nextgen.

Still it's the most powerful console to date now. By that logical we would still be in first generation haha

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binary solo on 06 April 2017

Comparing to Nintendo generational spec increases is not apples to apples, as Nintendo has not gone for big spec jumps since Game Cube.

I think comparing PS and Xbox generations is more appropriate. Without researching the numbers it seems like this still only qualifies as a mid-gen upgrade not a new generation compared to the change in specs from Xb og to 360 and from 360 to Xb one.

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jason1637 on 06 April 2017

Microsoft are done with generations so it's just a new xbox.

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celador on 06 April 2017

jason1637 said:
Microsoft are done with generations so it's just a new xbox.

But are they really though? I mean, say the next Xbox console after Scorpio comes out 2021. It will be a big jump over Scorpio, and an enormous jump over XBox One. By that time, no way are MS first parties or third party devs going to make their games run on the current Xbox One. They will run maybe on Scorpio and the new Xbox.

So the current Xbox One will drop out of the market because it's too weak and no one is making games for it. Doesn't that pretty much signal a generation ending? And if there are still Xbox games and consoles being made, a new gen must have started at some point?

Not that it particularly matters, I'm just wondering if by definition you can ever really drop generations

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bigtakilla on 06 April 2017

Shadow1980 said:
Of course not, no more than the PS4 Pro is "next-gen." It's more or less a souped-up XBO designed for 4K gaming. It's not anywhere close to a generation leap. The CPU is apparently the same as the XBO, just clocked a bit faster. The GPU is only about 50% more powerful than the Pro's. It's got only 50% more RAM than the Pro, whereas the base PS4 and XBO both have 16 times the RAM of the PS3 and 360, with a memory bandwidth also an order of magnitude higher. And like the Pro, all that additional power is going toward higher TV resolutions, not pushing the overall graphics themselves to next-gen levels. It will have no real exclusives aside from VR titles, and will share 90+% of the same library as the PS4 & PS4 Pro and 99+% of the same library as the XBO.

TL;DR: This is simply a performance boost to an existing platform, not an entirely new platform.

If PS3 just got Star Ocean and Persona, the whole entirely different platform angle holds no water

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jason1637 on 06 April 2017

celador said:

jason1637 said:
Microsoft are done with generations so it's just a new xbox.

But are they really though? I mean, say the next Xbox console after Scorpio comes out 2021. It will be a big jump over Scorpio, and an enormous jump over XBox One. By that time, no way are MS first parties or third party devs going to make their games run on the current Xbox One. They will run maybe on Scorpio and the new Xbox.

So the current Xbox One will drop out of the market because it's too weak and no one is making games for it. Doesn't that pretty much signal a generation ending? And if there are still Xbox games and consoles being made, a new gen must have started at some point?

Not that it particularly matters, I'm just wondering if by definition you can ever really drop generations

I think MS will have the regular xbox one and Scorpio. On 2020 or 2021 they will drop the xb1 and have scorpio and scorpio 2. Scorpio 1 by that time will be the main xbox and scorpio 2 the premium xbox. Scorpio and Scorpio 2 will still share the same games like xb1 and scorpio and able to play 360 games also. If there sharing games it's not really a new gen. But that's just my take on how I see MS doing consoles from now on.

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ironmanDX on 06 April 2017

It can run Forza Apex equivalent at 4k 60fps on ultra settings according to Eurogamer. I'm impressed. It's a good jump in power. Not a full generational jump though.