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Azhraell on 06 April 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
leyendax69 said:

Hmmm not sure if I agree with that, by that measure a lot of games with decent sales are also niche. imo niche is anything that sells under a million per game, but I wanted to hear the opinions of everyone here

Even if it's a first person military shooter?

I think sales have something to do with it, but the type of game means more. I wouldn't consider a military or sci-fi FPS niche regardless of their sales simply because it's a genre that typically sells so strongly. While JRPGs typically aren't big sellers in the west so I'd consider all but the very biggest (eg. Final Fantasy) niche.

Considerin how fps games usually sell, yeah that's a niche ip, unless you are referring to a famous franchise with an underperforming game. I guess it obviously can vary depending the type of game... selling 1m for an anime styled game is usually a success but for a cod game or almost any shooter would be horrible :



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Sprash on 06 April 2017

pretty good, looking back at all those comments how these games are niche and now here we are

Nioh 1+
Persona 1.5+
Nier 1+

all selling more than one million^^



 

 

think-man on 06 April 2017

I think Persona 4 golden on the vita really helped push this franchise. I for one had never played a Persona game before that title.



 

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deskpro2k3 on 06 April 2017

this niche is niche no more.



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Kerotan on 06 April 2017

The last guardian,
FFXV,
Yakuza 0,
Persona 5,
Dragon Quest Heroes 2,
Tales of BEASTERIA,
Persona 5,
Kingdom hearts,
FF12: the zodiac age,
Nier,
Nioh,
RE7...

And many more smaller titles. We are truly in a new golden era for PlayStation Japanese titles. Add in the western Horizon: Zero Dawn and we have one of the best gaming periods ever. And if you include Nintendo you can add Zelda to the list. What an amazing period this is. The ps4 has become a must buy console for Japanese gaming fans.



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Ultrashroomz on 06 April 2017

Good, gooooooood.



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Faelco on 06 April 2017
leyendax69 said:
Ali_16x said:

Umm, you are right, I was also thinking it also just has to do with "appeal", I mean, Persona 5 obviously is a game that appeals to certain people, JRPGs with simulation (dating etc). I think that's a very specific game. While Final Fantasy just seemed to be about making a game in a Fantasy setting which is pretty generic.

I think it's more about the reach of a frachise than genre itself. fifa and pes share the same genre yet pes barely sells (I'm aware there are more factors why this happens though) and you could hardly say it's mainstream anymore. Persona 5 will probably get close to 3M lt and that would mean it's one of the biggest jrpg series, it's not niche anymore

It doesn't work like that. Niche isn't related to sales that way. Niche games usually don't sale a lot because they are niche games, they're not niche games because they don't sell much. Niche is about genre, themes and target audience. Persona is an anime high-school class and dating sim/visual novel/turn-based JRPG, it's the definition of a niche game that will appeal to a very specific or informed audience, while the broad audience will say "what is this?" or "what's the point?". Persona 5 could sell 5M and still be a niche game. The most successful niche game ever, maybe, but niche game nonetheless. Meanwhile, PES could sell 100k and would still be a football game, basically the opposite of a niche game. Unsuccessful or flop doesn't mean niche. 



Johnw1104 on 06 April 2017

The limitations of "niche" genres/games that people are referring to here have certainly been greatly reduced lately via the exposure offered by the internet and many inter-connected social online communities.

Really, many (if not most) players these days seem willing to give a game a try if it's received well by reviewers than they've ever been that I can recall, even when it's unlike anything they've played before. People have really branched out it seems.

Also, in many instances it seems to me that the line is blurring between east and west games to some degree; it's rather clear that developers on opposite sides of the Pacific are looking for inspiration abroad and are more open to adapting new ideas to their own games.



Darwinianevolution on 06 April 2017

Congratulations to Atlus, Persona 5 is aiming to become the best selling SMT/ Persona (if it hasn't already). I hope this has a FE Awakening effect and keeps the franchise on the mainstream, we need more games like these.

Also, Atlus, now that you know it sells well, could you please bring it to the Switch? PC?



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Mystro-Sama on 06 April 2017

Shipped means nothing to me. Should have just waited a few weeks and released sales.