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Forums - Sony Discussion - Persona 5 has shipped 1.5 million as of April 4th

zorg1000 on 05 April 2017

Nice!!! Ive heard great things about this game.

Anybody know how this compares to previous installments?



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Ali_16x on 05 April 2017
leyendax69 said:
How much does a franchise need to sell not to be considered niche anymore?... good to see it doing well anyways.

Whenever it's mainstream. And I think as long as it's turn based, it probably will stay niche. I mean niche means "intended for a certain market or having a specific appeal". I have no doubt in my mind that the people buying Persona 5, Nioh, Nier are all hardcore gamers and by hardcore games I mean pretty much everyone who isn't like us who goes on gaming forums etc. That's why Final Fantasy isn't a niche game, it is pretty well known in the "average" gaming community, while Persona is definitely not. 



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NobleTeam360 on 05 April 2017
leyendax69 said:
How much does a franchise need to sell not to be considered niche anymore?... good to see it doing well anyways.

I was going to ask this as well. Do we go by how much it sales or is there some other way people determine if something is still "niche"



leo-j on 05 April 2017

Reviews have legit affected game sales in the west..... NIOH and nier both very nice ip both blew through a million copies.... and now persona does the same..... horizon is likely past 3 million too... all highly reviewed ip



 

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Angelv577 on 06 April 2017

Impressive. I expected no more than 1m.



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Azhraell on 06 April 2017
Ali_16x said:
leyendax69 said:
How much does a franchise need to sell not to be considered niche anymore?... good to see it doing well anyways.

Whenever it's mainstream. And I think as long as it's turn based, it probably will stay niche. I mean niche means "intended for a certain market or having a specific appeal". I have no doubt in my mind that the people buying Persona 5, Nioh, Nier are all hardcore gamers and by hardcore games I mean pretty much everyone who isn't like us who goes on gaming forums etc. That's why Final Fantasy isn't a niche game, it is pretty well known in the "average" gaming community, while Persona is definitely not. 

Hmmm not sure if I agree with that, by that measure a lot of games with decent sales are also niche. imo niche is anything that sells under a million per game, but I wanted to hear the opinions of everyone here



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Ali_16x on 06 April 2017
leyendax69 said:
Ali_16x said:

Whenever it's mainstream. And I think as long as it's turn based, it probably will stay niche. I mean niche means "intended for a certain market or having a specific appeal". I have no doubt in my mind that the people buying Persona 5, Nioh, Nier are all hardcore gamers and by hardcore games I mean pretty much everyone who isn't like us who goes on gaming forums etc. That's why Final Fantasy isn't a niche game, it is pretty well known in the "average" gaming community, while Persona is definitely not. 

Hmmm not sure if I agree with that, by that measure a lot of games with decent sales are also niche. imo niche is anything that sells under a million per game, but I wanted to hear the opinions of everyone here

Umm, you are right, I was also thinking it also just has to do with "appeal", I mean, Persona 5 obviously is a game that appeals to certain people, JRPGs with simulation (dating etc). I think that's a very specific game. While Final Fantasy just seemed to be about making a game in a Fantasy setting which is pretty generic.



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Azhraell on 06 April 2017
Ali_16x said:
leyendax69 said:

Hmmm not sure if I agree with that, by that measure a lot of games with decent sales are also niche. imo niche is anything that sells under a million per game, but I wanted to hear the opinions of everyone here

Umm, you are right, I was also thinking it also just has to do with "appeal", I mean, Persona 5 obviously is a game that appeals to certain people, JRPGs with simulation (dating etc). I think that's a very specific game. While Final Fantasy just seemed to be about making a game in a Fantasy setting which is pretty generic.

I think it's more about the reach of a frachise than genre itself. fifa and pes share the same genre yet pes barely sells (I'm aware there are more factors why this happens though) and you could hardly say it's mainstream anymore. Persona 5 will probably get close to 3M lt and that would mean it's one of the biggest jrpg series, it's not niche anymore



Safiir on 06 April 2017
Mar1217 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Even if it's a first person military shooter?

I think sales have something to do with it, but the type of game means more. I wouldn't consider a military or sci-fi FPS niche regardless of their sales simply because it's a genre that typically sells so strongly. While JRPGs typically aren't big sellers in the west so I'd consider all but the very biggest (eg. Final Fantasy) niche.

Sooo ... Vanquish wasn't a niche game after all ?!!

(Internally screaming ''YES !'' to himself)

Vanquish it a TPS, not FPS. For one. And another - a low seller in a mainstream genre does not make it a niche title. It simply makes it an underperforming title. Now, wether vanquish is an underperformer in the TPS genre is up for debate, I guess.