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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Forbes : Microsoft's Xbox Scorpio Should Be Worried About The Nintendo Switch

For whatever reason I can't read the article. But based on the headline, those who want gaming from a Switch are likely not worried about what Scorpio is offering. They're hardly stepping on each other's toes.



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superchunk said:
We'll have to see how this holiday fares with PS4Pro, XboxOneElite (which both contain 98% of the same library) and Switch that now has the power of ZeldaBOTW+MarioKart8D+Spla2oon+MarioOdyssey.

Whenever you say something like "Xbox and PS4 have 90%+ the same library" somebody freaks out. Before they do, I'll ask them this question: Out of every 10 games released for either in a given month, how many are exclusive to either?



d21lewis said:
superchunk said:
We'll have to see how this holiday fares with PS4Pro, XboxOneElite (which both contain 98% of the same library) and Switch that now has the power of ZeldaBOTW+MarioKart8D+Spla2oon+MarioOdyssey.

Whenever you say something like "Xbox and PS4 have 90%+ the same library" somebody freaks out. Before they do, I'll ask them this question: Out of every 10 games released for either in a given month, how many are exclusive to either?

Hard part about that question is people will cherry pick a rare month where PS4 may have gotten two games out of ten vs the year or generation where its clearly not true.



LudicrousSpeed said:

The Switch and Xbone/PS4 are pretty much going after two different markets. The gamers who buy Xbone/PS4 consoles wouldn't buy a Switch instead of one of those, they'd buy the Switch to compliment the other, because as the article says, the libraries don't differ that much for most peoples tastes. Nintendo platforms meanwhile provide a lot of variety but without major 3rd party support. It's the same as PC and consoles, yet for some reason people understand fine that Nintendo platforms exist for a different market yet can't wrap their heads around the idea that PC gaming and console gaming are two different markets as well, thus we get "lol but xbox has no exclusives!!".

That said, the Scorpio is a gaming console, the Switch is a gaming console, and there are only three in the market. So of course they are all "worried" about one another. But not at the degree this random blogger who posted their opinion on Forbes believes, imho.

I do generally agree with your point. However, I am not certain about PC gaming and home console gaming being aimed at different audiences (particularly when we look at XOne in relation to PC). I have an XOne, Switch, and a gaming PC. The Switch and the gaming PC compliment each other because they provide different gaming experiences because one is more verstile and portable with exclusive experiences designed around this aspect; the other is designed to be a stationary system that provides higher graphical fidelity. The thing is that PS4 and XOne also aim to be stationary systems that offer higher graphical fidelity, and so it does not appear it is going after a different market. Moreover, I can see PS4 gamers buying a PC and vice versa because of exclusives and not necessarly because the two systems are going after a different market (similar as to how certain people have both Macs and Windows-based PCs with similar configuations); but I cannot say the same for Xbox, largely because not only does the console (like PS4) share a similar use philosophy with the gaming PC (both are stationary systems designed to provide high fidelity graphical experiences), but it largely (with the exception of Halo 5 and Sunset Overdrive) shares a similar library of exclusives with the PC (and the PC itself has exclusives not on XOne; not to mention the productivity use case). For me, Microsoft introduction of Xbox Play Anywhere has resulted in my XOne being replaced by the PC, and if I want a more premium experience like the one offered by Scoprio, all I essentially need to do is upgrade my graphics card (which will cost less than Scorpio if I get a card equivialnt in function to what Scorpio provides; or I can get a card for the same price as Scorpio which will be much more powerful than what is in the Scorpio).



Nymeria said:
Here we have a "console war" that looks different from the one we've become accustomed to in recent years, where functionally equivalent machines from Microsoft and Sony compete over minor differences in their libraries and capabilities.

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I'd say PS4 and Xbox1 have seen libraries diverge more than the PS3 and Xbox360 era. Past few games I've played (Nier, Horizon, Nioh) have been on PS4 and not available on Xbox1

3 out of how many total games launched in the same time frame? The libraries are still well over 90% identical and will always remain that way as they are both "me-too" systems.



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superchunk said:
d21lewis said:

Whenever you say something like "Xbox and PS4 have 90%+ the same library" somebody freaks out. Before they do, I'll ask them this question: Out of every 10 games released for either in a given month, how many are exclusive to either?

Hard part about that question is people will cherry pick a rare month where PS4 may have gotten two games out of ten vs the year or generation where its clearly not true.

List of PlayStation 4 games:

There are currently 1550
Exclusive = 100Console exclusive = 389Timed = 28Multiplatform = 784




List of Xbox One games:

There are currently 1119

 Exclusive = 34

 Console exclusive = 120

 Multiplatform = 980



Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
superchunk said:

Hard part about that question is people will cherry pick a rare month where PS4 may have gotten two games out of ten vs the year or generation where its clearly not true.

List of PlayStation 4 games:

There are currently 1550
Exclusive = 100Console exclusive = 389Timed = 28Multiplatform = 784




List of Xbox One games:

There are currently 1119

 Exclusive = 34

 Console exclusive = 120

 Multiplatform = 980

Source?



d21lewis said:

Source?

PS4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games

Xb1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games

 

Exclusive games list.

http://gematsu.com/exclusives/ps4/

http://gematsu.com/exclusives/xbox-one/



This is RIGHT ON.  The Scorpio cannot hope to be better than the PS4 due to the lineup alone.  The Switch is genuinely different and compelling.



Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
d21lewis said:

Source?

PS4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games

Xb1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games

 

Exclusive games list.

http://gematsu.com/exclusives/ps4/

http://gematsu.com/exclusives/xbox-one/

For some reason, I knew it would be Wikipedia. It's not accurate. It relies on users/fans to keep it up to date. For example, just looking at the A's, there's a game that's unreleased, one that's only exclusive in China, and a PS2 game.

 

The gematsu list features a ton of games that aren't even available yet or are only in Japan. I guess it could technically be considered accurate (I only glanced at it) but, if you go by what you can buy in stores right now, either physically or digitally, it's not nearly correct, either.