so youtube personalities are scared because they have to get their viewers to donate via patreon or procure their own advertisers if they want to live by putting out controversial content

calling them "independent" is a bit rich, when they are this dependent on Youtube/Google getting them advertisers

The way I look at it, it's Youtube's platform. They set the rules and regulations. If you don't like it, you are free to use another platform, or just deal with the changes and secure funding in some other way.

I don't agree with Youtube's changes, but I think it's their right to change anything the see fit.

The term independent is used loosely these days. The Weeknd is signed by one of the biggest record labels and he lists himself as an independent artist, because he's the only one responsible for what's included in album and what's left out, compared to someone like Britney Spears, who's told what can and can't be included in her albums, he's considered independent.

Independent youtubers are also the ones who decide what to include in their channel, no one has dictated what they can and can't say to benefit from ads money up until now. Compared to Fox news and CNN, they are considered independent.

I agree the term isn't being accurately used here, but in a sense, it can be applied correctly.

haha I believe in unicorns (non-crazy leftists). lmao. What's bad is that is really funny to me. In all seriousness, I don't mind them and I like to hear their opinions/debate with them. For example, I like "The Rubin Report." I don't agree with him on some things but he presents a more rational arguement. He gets a little boring sometimes. 

I wonder if justice democrat is just another way of saying socialist. I never heard justice democrat before, though. I think I'm starting to dislike antifa more than I do the SJWs. 

We already have an example of that. Cenk Uygur from TYT worked for MSNBC for a while and it didn't work out at all. Love or hate Cenk, his story with MSNBC is an interesting one.

I wouldn't call Secular Talk a leftist though. He is much more of a liberal, like the Young Turks. The closest that TYT have to a leftist is Jimmy Dore.

The idea that the Wall Street Journal waged a war against PewDiePie or against YouTube at large is a narrative concocted mostly by YouTubers who don't understand journalism and likely have never read a newspaper in their lives. 

H3H3 got laughably outclassed and did their best to torch any credibility YouTubers had on this issue. 

from my experience everyone who isn't clearly right wing is considered a "leftist"

Another funny thing, is that no one who talks about WSJ's War on YouTube is apparently capable of doing any googling.

The trumped up narrative is that the Main Stream Media is panicking that they're losing influence to YouTube. While it's true that newspaper circulation is down, a lot of that is due to local papers. The Wall Street Journal is an international brand. They have over two million paying subscribers, which, by the way, is over 30% more subscribers than the entirety of YouTube Red.

How many of a big YouTuber's audience is willing to pay for their content? Even Colin Moriarty, who is killing it now, has only 6,500 people willing to pay for his stuff.

Regarding Colin, he is a good example of someone who gets it. If you rely on a company to host your videos (for free) and also to sell ads for you (for free), you're always going to be at the mercy of that company and it's whims. Your position will always be tenuous.

It's time for YouTubers and new media people to figure out another way to make money. Some of them, like Colin, already have it figured out.

From my experience, if you are not pro Trump, you are a leftist