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Professional journalism, even online, shouldn't rely on YouTube, where their contents get mixed with an overwhelming amount of amateur ones, except for quick, low-cost advertising of their true sites.
I read many online news quite regularly, and I never look for them on YouTube.
The only (un)professional YouTube channel I happen to watch quite regularly is Vevo, but I avoid it if I can as I deeply despise it for its medieval region locking policies, not to mention its bad habit to more often than not presume to "improve" the original sound of old music with a new equalization. Other music channels are less annoying, but they nevertheless tend to get lost in the ocean of contents uploaded by common users.
Last, but not least, YouTube search tools totally suck, they're not suitable at all to search anything more complicated than artist names and song titles.



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Acevil said:
Ka-pi96 said:
So?

If people want to create that stuff there won't be anything stopping them from continuing to do so, they just won't be getting paid for it. I don't get the problem?

BUT FREE SPEECH! (For right wing, the forget corporatations are allowed to use money any way they want. that includes not paying individuals based on their cateria. Honestly youtube I applaud you for this.)

I learned about what's happening through my favourite leftist youtube channel. All sides are affected. The mere mention of certain words would mean your videos are mostly likely going to be demonetized. For example, if you are disucssing why gay marriage should be legal without being offensive at all, bam, no ads will placed on your videos.

VGPolyglot said:
Well, I don't think this is going to stop Stephen Crowder, Paul Joseph Watson, Rebel Media, Sargon, Black Pigeon Speaks, Alex Jones, Varg Vikernes, Stefan Molyneux or Brother Nathanael from posting their views on YouTube.

It won't stop established youtubers because those can and will look for alternative revenue sources. My fave political channel made a "patreon" account less than 24 hours ago and he's already receiving 10k dollars a month.

vivster said:
So how are those people independent if they're dependent on ads?

Independent in this case means free of corporate ties that influence their opinions. Might not be the accurate word to use, if you have an alternative description, go ahead and let me now.

RJ_Sizzle said:
And? If these people want to be paid for their political views, they can start up patreons, or, not be paid at all if it means that much to them. I don't blame corporations for wanting to steer shy of the bullshit and not foot the bill for it. If you want to get paid with ads, you need to come up with a game plan to steer back toward neutral content.

It doesn't matter if the content is neutral or not. The mere discussion of any political, racial or sexual topic will lead to demonetization of your video.

super_etecoon said:
VGPolyglot said:

I searched it up, and apparently it is.

So is sesquipedalian.

So is twerk.

Boost6 said:
Leftist liberal fascist's cant stand free speech no way, tell us something we don't know.

Funny how many of you has already turned this into "left vs right". FYI, I found out about this through my fave leftist channels. Get your head out of your asses and see the picture for once.

Otter said:
I should hope other social media platforms step up in this regards, video on facebook is bcoming increasingly more important, what is its stance?

No use in moving on to other platforms. This is a systematic move from both, youtube and its advertising partners, to pull people's attention away from news outlets they don't approve of and get them to refocus on the traditional media sources that have lost a lot of its influencing powers in recent times.

Facebook & Google live and die on the support of those advertising partners, they have the upper hand here. Established youtubers are feeling the burn already but they'll survive thanks to the support of their hardcore fanbases, but you won't get bright new faces in the political commentary scene anymore unless those original content creators hit back smartly. 



yeah that's not how it works.

People don't want to be associated hate. Look at Bill O-reily advertisers are fleeing from him in droves.
He has lost 20+ advertisers because of his sexual harassment.

This isn't limited to just "youtube killing independent media" it is about advertisers not wanting their ads associated with people having massive backlash.

Breitbart has lost over 100 advertisers already.

It is the same reason stories are dropping Trump and Ivanak's stuff.



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Otter said:
Aeolus451 said:
So basically youtube is trying to defund independent media and people they disagree with. Another step to actual fascism.

Its a broad sweep on certain topics like politics, race, sexuality. 

Most republican leaning opinions are considered controversial these days especially since there's a growing number of republicans who are against political correctness. All it takes to be flagged a few times. SJWs. I'm sure they'll go wild with flagging people. It doesn't matter if there's any truth the accusations.

I agree with youtube on the spirit of it but not how it will enforced or how it will likely play out. I'm skeptical person. Most things like that are rarely done in a sensible way. Also, youtube has already admitted that they don't have enough people to go through the amount of new vids they get each day.  They'll likely resort to some kind of automated system that searches for keywords and reporting/flagging. Hell, I bet the reports will handled by a automated system.



 

LadyJasmine said:
Well the reality is the traditional media looks at Youtube with disdain, but even with all the crap I find a lot of high quality informative videos that have made me learn about the world.

Same here. Lots of youtube personality helped me burst the bubble I was living in. I can't believe how mislead I was on many issues.

 

OdinHades said:
I remember a time when nobody at YouTube got paid and no one complained. Nowadays every little channel with 100 subs demands some form of income. I'm getting sick of it. In fact, I'm too sick of it to even read about these new YouTube policies in detail, so I won't say anything about it.

Well, youtube invited a lot of people to make it their everyday's business to make and upload videos in return for money from ads. Youtube is not the same without the original created content from independent youtubers. It is a mutually beneficial relationship between youtubers and youtbe. So many of you act as if it's not.

Boost6 said:
Leftist liberal fascist's cant stand free speech no way, tell us something we don't know.

People all over are being hit by this. This isnt the time for partisan bullshit. All creators from the left and the right need to get on the same page if they plan to remain relevant.

Acevil said:
naruball said:

If I had a dollar for every time someone showed a lack of understanding of what free speech means, I swear, I'd be filthy rich.

But sure, let's go with "it's all a big consiparacy-oppression by the left" and call it a day.

I do love that corporations controlling themselves and how they govern their business is a left thing now. 

Hahah. Thank you. Pointing out hypocrisy never gets old



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You mean the american system is finally responding to Russian meddling?

 

I'd say it was about time...



vivster said:
So how are those people independent if they're dependent on ads?

How are indie Devs independent if they depend on people buying their games?



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Aeolus451 said:
Otter said:

Its a broad sweep on certain topics like politics, race, sexuality. 

Most republican leaning opinions are considered controversial these days especially since there's a growing number of republicans who are against political correctness. All it takes to be flagged a few times. SJWs. I'm sure they'll go wild with flagging people. It doesn't matter if there's any truth the accusations.

I agree with youtube on the spirit of it but not how it will enforced or how it will likely play out. I'm skeptical person. Most things like that are rarely done in a sensible way. Also, youtube has already admitted that they don't have enough people to go through the amount of new vids they get each day.  They'll likely resort to some kind of automated system that searches for keywords and reporting/flagging. Hell, I bet the reports will handled by a automated system.

Sigh.

Will you be happy to know that a lot of leftists aren't as crazy as the vocal minority? It's not our fault corporates are using left-leaning gender & PC politics to push their hidden agendas. Just like they used right-leaning religious politics to push the same hidden agendas in the past.

In fact, I think movements like "Justice Democrats" is one of the main instigators behind what's happening right now. American democracy is set up, by design, to serve specific types of people, it doesn't matter of those people lean to the left nor to the right.

The current form of American democracy, better described as oligarchy, is threatened, and this systematic offense on youtubers is just their way of eliminating the threat. Protecting the status quo from contagious online-based revolutions and movements is the main theme here.




so youtube personalities are scared because they have to get their viewers to donate via patreon or procure their own advertisers if they want to live by putting out controversial content

calling them "independent" is a bit rich, when they are this dependent on Youtube/Google getting them advertisers



The way I look at it, it's Youtube's platform. They set the rules and regulations. If you don't like it, you are free to use another platform, or just deal with the changes and secure funding in some other way.

I don't agree with Youtube's changes, but I think it's their right to change anything the see fit.