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naruball said:
Slade6alpha said:
None of Atlus' business. Throwing my Take your heart edition and throwing it in my cat's litter box. Boycotting this hot mess.

Makes sense. Why enjoy a game you bought when you can throw it away to show them developers who's the boss?

lmao, even if I wrote "THIS IS A JOKE," I'm convinced you would still think I was serious. 



 

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Slade6alpha said:
naruball said:

Makes sense. Why enjoy a game you bought when you can throw it away to show them developers who's the boss?

lmao, even if I wrote "THIS IS A JOKE," I'm convinced you would still think I was serious. 

Be convinced all you want. Doesn't make you any less wrong.



This practice can be harmful for companies, since it's a single player that if a person watches enough can lose interest in buying it later. I would never watch a stream of a single player because of spoilers.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
naruball said:
Slade6alpha said:

lmao, even if I wrote "THIS IS A JOKE," I'm convinced you would still think I was serious. 

Be convinced all you want. Doesn't make you any less wrong.

Learn to take a joke, it's just vgc. 



 

Turkish said:
VGPolyglot said:

How do you know they would have bought the game if they hadn't seen it  on YouTube?

My bro watched RE7 and now doesnt want to buy it.

 

Good, sounds like he avoided wasting $65 if he is content with a YT watch. Why anyone would side with the business here is beyond me. Ignoring he fact that the game has been out for like 7 months in Japan IIRC, people bought it and should be able to do with it what they want. I love that they are getting shit in for this by the gaming community by and large.



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BasilZero said:

Just shows you how backwater of a company/group Atlus is when it comes to social media in the current age.


Its no wonder SEGA bought them, both companies fit the bill.

 

Even Nintendo doesnt go this extreme.

Nintendo claims every Nintendo Videogame for adrevenue, while this is a temporally thing to avoid spoilers for one single game. How does Sega look here like the worse guy?



Ruler said:
BasilZero said:

Just shows you how backwater of a company/group Atlus is when it comes to social media in the current age.


Its no wonder SEGA bought them, both companies fit the bill.

 

Even Nintendo doesnt go this extreme.

Nintendo claims every Nintendo Videogame for adrevenue, while this is a temporally thing to avoid spoilers for one single game. How does Sega look here like the worse guy?

 

Nintendo lets you keep the video up on youtube without restrictions while SEGA demands no videos being uploaded to heavy limitations.

I dont know how you can NOT see SEGA as the worse guy from this.

If you upload a Nintendo video, you get a copyright claim (which claims monetization which imo is fine since it keeps the video up on youtube) while SEGA videos you get a copyright strike which blocks or mutes the video completely, forces you to delete the videos and risks the channel getting suspended.

Its happened several times in the years before. Sonic games, Shining Force games, Persona games and even more recent : PUYO PUYO TETRIS. fricken tetris l0l.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1358328
https://www.destructoid.com/sega-forcing-removal-of-shining-force-videos-on-youtube-239581.phtml



    

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Chazore said:
Hiku said:

By whatever name you want to call it, that doesn't mean that Atlus would have any less right than Marvel to not have someone showcase the entire story they wrote on youtube or Twitch.

Although it doesn't seem like that's what this is about per say. It doesn't seem to be about monetization, but about preventing spoilers to be spread to a degree.

I can understand them not wanting youtube videos with blatant spoilers in the title. But just streaming it into a VOD (with an apprpriate title) seems fine to me. If you go to a P5 stream, you should expect spoilers.

Perhaps they will lift this restriction after a certain amount of time has passed?

And that's comparing Marvel to a video game company, again video games are not movies or comic books either. Mixing both of them into a Gray area is absically trying to make the area not apepar grey, but appear more within the rights of one side than the other.

Meaning? Explain why does it matter in this case if they are different?
Because they can still have the same concerns or legal rights, even if they are different.

Watching a movie on Youtube can deter or encourage some people from buying it on Blu Ray/seeing it in theatres.
Marvel are concerned about the former, and have a right to take down the content from Youtube in some instances.

Watching a Lets Play on Youtube showcasing ciutscenes of a game's story can deter or encourage some people from buying the game themselves.
A game company like Atlus could be concerned about the former if they want to, and have the rights to take down the content on Youtube in some instances.

Now this doesn't seem to be what this case is about. I'm just saying if Atlus wanted to they could (in most cases, outside of fair use, etc) remove the content from Youtube and Twitch.

The main thing is that people should be going out and playing the games, not searching youtube all the time for anything related to P5, trailer and all, they should be playing the game from start to end. I don't think it's entirely fair to adhere to the spoiler free crowd than it is for everyone else. When these types of topics come up, it's always those that greatly dislike spoilers and they want the job of ignoring them done for them, rather than doing what anyone else could have done for countless centuries and just simply turn the other way or even place more barriers of their own, rather than having the barriers put up against everyone instead. We've already had a thread that showcases an addon for multiple browsers for those who wish to block out spoilers, that solution alone benefits the one not wanting to see any spoilers, all without trying to block it for everyone else. 

Well here's a scenario I can understand. Someone goes on youtube and watches a video about cute cats. The video ends and youtube shows recommended videos for you to watch. Among them is a Persona 5 video with a title that's a big plot spoiler. And you accidentally see it. This literally happened to me just now. Almost. It was titled "Final Boss" but it didn't say the name of the boss, luckily. But it could have. And I would have had the end fight potentially spoiled for me.

I'm sure there are ways to prevent Youtube from showing you recommendations of specific works. But I would bet most people either don't know how, or just don't do it. And it does seem pretty tedious. Some times I don't even know if I'm interested in a game or movie beforehand to block it premptively, and I see a spoiler.
I can imagine that Atlus got a lot of complaints about the last delay of the western release of the game in particular precisely because of having to avoid spoilers for 7 months straight. I don't know how much that has to do with this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they consider doing this for future story heavy games as well.

If they lift the restriction after a few months, then what's to stop all the others from pulling the same stunt, so then in the end if does come full circle to what I was just talking about. That one small group (small enough to not see see public outrage about it 24/7) that wants everything blocked for their own sake while thinking everyone on the planet wants what they want.

You mean other game publishers? Well nothing ever really stopped them from doing it. The tools for them to do this have been there for a long time.
But would they follow Atlus example? I don't know. If it's a very story driven game, and depending on the feedback, then perhaps.