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fory77 on 31 March 2017

Not quite collapsing, rather slowly but surely losing for the last year. They have been fighting on 6-7 fronts with way less manpower and equipment. If Raqqa falls this year they will be demoted from a quasi-state to a normal terrorist group hiding in the desert mountains. But even then there's Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham and friends (the white on the map) who were literally Al-Qaeda in Syria and the FSA to deal with. I don't see peace in Syria for the next minimum 3 years and if Assad can't deal with the Kurds with diplomacy - another 3-5. 

 a better map:



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VGPolyglot on 31 March 2017
fory77 said:

Not quite collapsing, rather slowly but surely losing for the last year. They have been fighting on 6-7 fronts with way less manpower and equipment. If Raqqa falls this year they will be demoted from a quasi-state to a normal terrorist group hiding in the desert mountains. But even then there's Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham and friends (the white on the map) who were literally Al-Qaeda in Syria and the FSA to deal with. I don't see peace in Syria for the next minimum 3 years and if Assad can't deal with the Kurds with diplomacy - another 3-5. 

 a better map:

The conflict could last for decades. Afghanistan has been in conflict since 1978.



palou on 31 March 2017
Kerotan said:
Looking forward to the fall of ISIS but let's be realistic there will still be a lot of trouble in the middle east. Don't think it will be this bad again but you never get peace in the East for long.

Yeah, I'm sure the three remaining parties contesting for territory in Syria will resolve their differences peacfully when ISIS is gone...



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numberwang on 31 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
fory77 said:

Not quite collapsing, rather slowly but surely losing for the last year. They have been fighting on 6-7 fronts with way less manpower and equipment. If Raqqa falls this year they will be demoted from a quasi-state to a normal terrorist group hiding in the desert mountains. But even then there's Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham and friends (the white on the map) who were literally Al-Qaeda in Syria and the FSA to deal with. I don't see peace in Syria for the next minimum 3 years and if Assad can't deal with the Kurds with diplomacy - another 3-5. 

 a better map:

The conflict could last for decades. Afghanistan has been in conflict since 1978.

Most of the dark grey area is empty desert though, nobody really controls nothingness, in particular without an airforce.

I don't think the Kurds are interested in territorial expansion but want some local autonomy instead - so this conflicts can be balanced as long as they don't declare their own state (Turkey don't like this).

The Al-Qaeda (the white on the map) is smaller than I thought, how long can they endure?

Key aspect for the West is to stop giving weapons to "rebels" like candy which turned local terror groups into military forces.



Azelover on 31 March 2017
aLkaLiNE said:

Lol no. War will never end until the structure of society itself changes. 

I live in Brazil, and we don't have war here.

Sure it's possible. It's just that your real leadership is a weapon cartell.



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snyps on 31 March 2017

Resistance to western occupation is an idea bred from an imbalance in humanity. It will remain while the people remain occupied.



justinian on 31 March 2017

I remember hearing the same thing about Al Queada .. or whatever. Then out of their ashes rose ISIS.

These groups are funded by very rich people so another probably more potent evil will arise after ISIS.

It helps western governments to keep its citizens scared, especially the right.



fory77 on 31 March 2017
numberwang said:

The Al-Qaeda (the white on the map) is smaller than I thought, how long can they endure?

With the various other rebel groups (the green around them), allot. At least they have for years.

 

 They certainly shouldn't be underestimated.



AlfredoTurkey on 01 April 2017

Anytime you have a bunch of uneducated borderline mentally challenged nut balls grouping together for some half baked cause it's only a matter of time before it falls apart.



numberwang on 01 April 2017

Trump is reversing the Obama/Clinton policy of regime-change in the middle east: Assad can stay now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYR02qbH4M