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Pemalite said:
Turkish said:

Wowzers you think you debunked it, how many internet points do you earn? All I'm saying is that after the Z other phone makers suddenly copied Sony's design philosophy. It's why Android phones all look the same now. Seriously we went from this

 

 

to this

 

Notice how the Xperia Z is the only classy phone with a clean UI, notice how they all evolved from their round shapes and design stuck in 2007 plastic and their ugly UIs to something sleeker looking after, they all copied from Sony. The only other company with an original design was HTC.

No reason for you to be salty about it though, Sony phones are one of the best Android phones out there. They were the only ones who put flagship specs in their compact versions while others gimped theirs.

So now you have shifted the goal posts... You have gone from saying that Sony revolutionised power button placement to now claiming it's the entire form factor? Are you being serious right now? Just admit you were wrong and leave it there rather than trying to shift the argument.

If Sony wasn't first with something, and other companies had released multiple devices with that button placement, then Sony didn't revolutionise button placement did they? It's the companies that beat Sony that "revolutionised" something as it was worth copying.

As for the form factor argument... I have one thing to say to that: lol
A square rectangle with rounded edges isn't a form factor that Sony revolutionised. There is only so many ways you can make a rectangle a rectangle.

If anything, they copied LG on the form Factor when LG released the LG Prada back in 2007 a few weeks before the iPhone... And had demonstrated the Phone back in 2006. (And LG Claims that the iPhone copies the Prada. But I digress.)

Well they revolutionized the power button and the entire form factor too, it's obvious if u followed the Android market in the past 4 years.

Just admit it the Xperia Z was a clear inspiration and reference to how future Android phones would look.



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Normchacho said:
d21lewis said:

Moto Z Force

- Unbreakable screen


- Android 7.0


- Moto Mods (attach a high quality camera, Speaker, projector, battery back, etc to the back of your phone with magnets. It's cooler than it sounds)

- powerful hardware under the hood

- Metal build

- thinnest phone on the market

- Same phone Angry Joe uses

You're mixing up the Force and the regular Moto Z here a bit. The regular Moto Z is the thinnest phone on the market. The Force is a bit thicker.

 

Great phones though. I love the shatterproof display on the Force, but it does make the screen a little dull.

Aww... 

 

I goofed. I was originally going up post "uncomfortably thin" because it actually is for me. Can't use it without a mod or a cover. I didn't want to turn the OP off, though.



If you want to replace a Note 4 and still like the Stylus then you should wait for the Note 8; however, if you do not really care about the stylus, then it is a fine phone especially if you want to remain in the Samsung eco-system.

Here are some of recommendations (ranked). Also I would recommend waiting until later in the year when new models of the phones mentioned below, along with Note 8, and the anniversary iPhone (which is supposed to be a major update) come out:

1. Moto Z (my personal favorite phone; wait for 2017 model)

Pros:
-Expandable with moto mods (main reason I bought this phone)
-Really thin without mods
-Moto gestures and voice (primary reason why I bought this phone's predecessor, the Moto X, and a major considering when I got this phone)
-Stock and lightweight Android
-Supports day-dream VR
-Great AMOLED display

Cons:
-Big top and bottom bezels
-Small internal battery (there is a moto mod for this)
-Mediocre front-ported speaker (there is a moto mod for this)
-No headphone jack (you can use a USB-C converter or bluetooth headphones)

2. Google Pixel (wait for the 2017 model)

Pros:
-Great camera
-Smoothest android experience
-Fast updates
-Great AMOLED display
-Supports daydream VR
-Always listening and gesture features similar to Moto

Cons:
-Big bezels
-No optical image stabilization
-Mediocre speakers

3. ZTE Axon 7
Pros:
-Great price
-Great specs (again considering the price)
-Great AMOLED display
-Supports Google DayDream VR
-Has DAC for high fidelity headphones
-Amazing stereo speakers

Cons:
-Software is not as well optimized
-Does not have always-listening voice features or the advanced notification features of the Moto or Pixel

4. LG V20 (wait for the 2017 model)

Pros:
-Great dual camera setup
-Big, vibrant LCD screen
-The second screen gives you access to useful shortcuts (albeit with a caveat that I will mention in the cons)
-Built-in DAC if you have high fidelity headphones
-Decent speaker, albeit still a mono speaker

Cons:
-The second screen does not compensate for lack of shortcut gestures and does not display detailed notifications like Samsung and Moto's implementations of the always-on display.
-While the monospeaker is good, it is still not quite on part with the speakers on the HTC 10 (or the older M series).



nemo37 said:
If you want to replace a Note 4 and still like the Stylus then you should wait for the Note 8; however, if you do not really care about the stylus, then it is a fine phone especially if you want to remain in the Samsung eco-system.

Here are some of recommendations (ranked). Also I would recommend waiting until later in the year when new models of the phones mentioned below, along with Note 8, and the anniversary iPhone (which is supposed to be a major update) come out:

1. Moto Z (my personal favorite phone; wait for 2017 model)

Pros:
-Expandable with moto mods (main reason I bought this phone)
-Really thin without mods
-Moto gestures and voice (primary reason why I bought this phone's predecessor, the Moto X, and a major considering when I got this phone)
-Stock and lightweight Android
-Supports day-dream VR
-Great AMOLED display

Cons:
-Big top and bottom bezels
-Small internal battery (there is a moto mod for this)
-Mediocre front-ported speaker (there is a moto mod for this)
-No headphone jack (you can use a USB-C converter or bluetooth headphones)

2. Google Pixel (wait for the 2017 model)

Pros:
-Great camera
-Smoothest android experience
-Fast updates
-Great AMOLED display
-Supports daydream VR
-Always listening and gesture features similar to Moto

Cons:
-Big bezels
-No optical image stabilization
-Mediocre speakers

3. ZTE Axon 7
Pros:
-Great price
-Great specs (again considering the price)
-Great AMOLED display
-Supports Google DayDream VR
-Has DAC for high fidelity headphones
-Amazing stereo speakers

Cons:
-Software is not as well optimized
-Does not have always-listening voice features or the advanced notification features of the Moto or Pixel

4. LG V20 (wait for the 2017 model)

Pros:
-Great dual camera setup
-Big, vibrant LCD screen
-The second screen gives you access to useful shortcuts (albeit with a caveat that I will mention in the cons)
-Built-in DAC if you have high fidelity headphones
-Decent speaker, albeit still a mono speaker

Cons:
-The second screen does not compensate for lack of shortcut gestures and does not display detailed notifications like Samsung and Moto's implementations of the always-on display.
-While the monospeaker is good, it is still not quite on part with the speakers on the HTC 10 (or the older M series).

wow thanks for this very detailed suggestion!!!! ive been looking to moto since a lot of people suggested that.. I can survive without stylus but the websie in my company that i need acces 24/7 is very mobile non-friendly that i end up using the stylus for me to go around the webside T_T 



 

Turkish said:

Well they revolutionized the power button and the entire form factor too, it's obvious if u followed the Android market in the past 4 years.

Just admit it the Xperia Z was a clear inspiration and reference to how future Android phones would look.

Lol. No they didn't.

By your logic with the Samsung Galaxy S8 samsung revolutionised the Form Factor and Power Button location... I mean... Prior examples mean nothing to you right?



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My best so far was when I killed a Yiga clan assassin in the rain, only for one of those wind cleaver bastards to then spawn. I tried to run away, but his wind cleaver attack chased me down and took me out. (Any way to avoid those btw?) The zora revival power saved me, but the Yiga guy was closing in to finish the job; there was nowhere to run, and I wouldn't survive another hit. Then, out of the blue, a lightning bolt struck and killed my attacker, saving my skin.



mashieave said:

My best so far was when I killed a Yiga clan assassin in the rain, only for one of those wind cleaver bastards to then spawn. I tried to run away, but his wind cleaver attack chased me down and took me out. (Any way to avoid those btw?) The zora revival power saved me, but the Yiga guy was closing in to finish the job; there was nowhere to run, and I wouldn't survive another hit. Then, out of the blue, a lightning bolt struck and killed my attacker, saving my skin.

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Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

aLkaLiNE said:
Vertigo-X said:

They do sell in the US; it just happens to be Unlocked for the lot of them. Sure, you aren't getting phones designed for that network, but you're able to buy them outright and switch between AT&T and T-Mobile whenever you want.

They aren't offered by the main four carriers themselves though and they straight up don't work on Verizon at all. You have to pay full retail MSRP in the US and very few stores offer them online, let alone at retail aside from Best Buy, Sony themselves or Amazon. Picking up a Sony smart phone in the US requires extra hurdles when someone could easily pay less than half the price up front for an iPhone 7 or Samsung Galaxy S8

 

As a Verizon subscriber, if there were a way for me, I'd get one to see what it's like.

While not exactly false, it is misleading to take comfort from only paying half up front. You're paying for the full price regardless of which route you go.

And yeah... Sad that Verizon has to be so weird with their transmission frequencies. :(



The BuShA owns all!

I have an S7 Edge. I'll wait. If I do this, I'll be upgrading every year. I already upgraded from an S6, after it was stolen.



No easy to remove battery? Nein!

And that price tag? Nein nein nein...



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