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Forums - General Discussion - Canadians are outliving Americans with Cystic Fibrosis, in some cases, by as much as a decade

"When severity of disease, age and other variables were taken into account, Canadians had a 34% lower death rate than American patients overall.

US patients with private insurance had a similar life expectancy as their Canadian counterparts, whereas Canadians had a 44% lower death rate than Americans on Medicaid. The uninsured fared the worst - Canadians had a 77% lower death rate than Americans who had no insurance at all."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39410236 (Link not working: copy & paste link into browser instead)

Food for thought with the healthcare debate in the US heating up again, Bernie is still leading the pack for a Canadian style healthcare system, but others are starting to join in the chorus  




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Because Canadians are on average thinner.

just saying what everyone's thinking.



NATO said:

Because Canadians are on average thinner.

just saying what everyone's thinking.

In terms of obesity, I'm pretty sure in terms of statistics and ratios the rate is fairly similar. Fast food reigns supreme in both countries. Though the states do have more attractive choices, Sonics is awesome and their Taco Bell is by far better. In Canada A&W is light years ahead of the one in the states.


Driving down the street in either country should net you about the same ratio of fat peeps waddling down the street.




Airaku said:
NATO said:

Because Canadians are on average thinner.

just saying what everyone's thinking.

In terms of obesity, I'm pretty sure in terms of statistics and ratios the rate is fairly similar. Fast food reigns supreme in both countries. Though the states do have more attractive choices, Sonics is awesome and their Taco Bell is by far better. In Canada A&W is light years ahead of the one in the states.


Driving down the street in either country should net you about the same ratio of fat peeps waddling down the street.

Americans are way fatter from what I've seen. There are fat people in Canada but nowhere near as common. Also the serving portions between the two countries is a huge difference. 



Soundwave said:

Americans are way fatter from what I've seen. There are fat people in Canada but nowhere near as common. Also the serving portions between the two countries is a huge difference. 

Both countries are in the top 25 fattest with a 5% difference in obesity.  Most US states are actually below the Canadian national average.  The US has a wide disparity, mostly related to poverty.  

On topic, eh.  Give poor states like Arkansas, Mississippi, and Louisiana to Canada and their health-care system wouldn't make much of a difference.  These 1-to-1 comparisons sound great but they never tell the whole story, especially when dealing with a huge and diverse population.



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Try adding 10x the current number of people to the Canadian health care system of all kinds of different economic and cultural backgrounds and then see how well it fares. That's basically what would happen if you tried to replicate the Canadian health care system in the US.



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NightDragon83 said:
Try adding 10x the current number of people to the Canadian health care system of all kinds of different economic and cultural backgrounds and then see how well it fares. That's basically what would happen if you tried to replicate the Canadian health care system in the US.

I'm not sure I undertand your reasoning, wouldnt Canada's health system be scalable ?

 

In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S. it's US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on healthcare in that year; Canada spent only 10.0%

The US is spending far more per-capita and has the resources, just look at the military budget, but the US still gets worse health outcomes  



Ka-pi96 said:
Article is only about patients with cystic fibrosis.


Not quite, but how cystic fibrosis is treated is reflective of the whole system, they do talk about overall health as well 



Title is classic clickbait garbage. Whoever wrote it should be ashamed of themselves.



Rab said:
NightDragon83 said:
Try adding 10x the current number of people to the Canadian health care system of all kinds of different economic and cultural backgrounds and then see how well it fares. That's basically what would happen if you tried to replicate the Canadian health care system in the US.

I'm not sure I undertand your reasoning, wouldnt Canada's health system be scalable ?

 

In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S. it's US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on healthcare in that year; Canada spent only 10.0%

The US is spending far more per-capita and has the resources, just look at the military budget, but the US still gets worse health outcomes  

And that's not just limited to Canada vs USA either.

The USA spends roughly 2.5x the OECD average on Healthcare, yet it's health results rank lower.

The USA health system is slow, inefficient, ineffective and expensive.




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