specialk said:
o_O.Q said:
are we past the year 2000 now or did we take a time machine back to the 1900s?
well if not why are we going back to the 1900s to justify absurd positions now?
" you're arguing against an SJW strawman"
ok.. but talking about the early 1900s to justify racism and sexism perpetuated by people claiming to fight racism and sexism isn't a strawman? ok
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I'm going back to the 1900s and even earlier to justify the point that the United States was made in the image of white men. The passage of the 19th ammendment didn't undo the civilization that was built in the 100 preceding years.
The passage of Voting Rights Act of 1965 didn't give blacks and other minorities the 189 years of agency that they missed out on when it came to the direction of the country.
The Fair Housing Act of 1968 didn't go back and restore the wealth accumulation missed out on by black families because of fundamentally unfair lending practices.
The Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 didn't go back and restore lost years for people who languished in jail due racial bias in the judiciary.
Again, good talk, but honestly I'm putting more into this conversation than I'm getting out of it.
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"I'm going back to the 1900s and even earlier to justify the point that the United States was made in the image of white men."
since white people are the majority in the country and men had more responsiblity before than they do now what else would be expected?
"The passage of Voting Rights Act of 1965 didn't give blacks and other minorities the 189 years of agency that they missed out on when it came to the direction of the country.
The Fair Housing Act of 1968 didn't go back and restore the wealth accumulation missed out on by black families because of fundamentally unfair lending practices.
The Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 didn't go back and restore lost years for people who languished in jail due racial bias in the judiciary. "
sure... and what can be done about these past instances of oppression other than to ensure that everyone has rights which apprently you do acknowledge is the case at this point in time? (and obviously even though everyone has rights there will be cases where oppression slips through the cracks since systems created by men are not perfect)
do you feel strongly enough about this issue to give up a sizeable portion of your wealth to the black community?
and the truly ironic thing about this is that you don't understand that the underlying purpose of the people we've spoken about is to strip away rights and privileges from people and that not only applies to white men but everyone
as i've mentioned before the underlying ideal is that everyone must be as equal as possible... and how would that be achieved if you don't take away freedom? its very, very simple to understand which is why i don't see how people don't get it