| PooperScooper said: So this brings us to the infamous GGE arguement. She says that Sony will NOT benifit with winning the format. Is this 6% (and growing) of a 50billion dollar industry worth it? |
Gballzack says sony wont benefit from ps2+ psp sales, dont listen to what she says its not good for you.
thats pretty good
until blu ray is cheaper, it will not superass the dvd, most people dont want to pay 30$ for one movie
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| taomaster06 said: until blu ray is cheaper, it will not superass the dvd, most people dont want to pay 30$ for one movie |
they did when DVD cost that much, also most Blu-ray movies are under $30 now-a-days.
kowenicki said:
see my post above..... is it incorrect? |
Very incorrect.
A. this site is a diverse community.
B. The majority of this site is about gaming. That doesn't mean we are restricted to talk just about gaming.
C. insulting people is not a nice way to start off you being a member
D. some people here care how their investment is working out. (The people who bought Ps3's perhaps? Oh look! IT JUST TURNED INTO A GAMMING DISCUSSION! NO WAI!)
E. There are no trillionaires
F. We don't think Sony is in instant money
G. Sure they will have to split it up amongst a bunch of companies.... But a small bit of 3billion dollars is still a large amount. (more than 10 times more than you have in your bank account I'm willing to bet)
H. And you are just thinking about movie sales.... How simple minded that is. Take into account that since people don't have 2 choices anymore. They have to go blu-ray now.... that means Sony has a better possibility of selling players than before. That means more money for them.
Kasz and Scooper
you are maybe both right
both ways of comparing seem not bad
it's more a thing of taste
or how one tries to define the world :)
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| kowenicki said: Sorry... but what does this have to do with gaming? Is it because some people on here who need to get a life think that Blu Ray winning the high def war means Sony are now trillionaires and can now go on to rule the world and we can all live in Sonytopia? Incorrect... Sony does not own the rights to Blu Ray. It was developed by 8 companies and Blu Ray is managed by a consortium of 18 companies. Indeed Microsoft themsleves will even receive a small royalty on each hardware sale due to their codecs being used. |
it has nothing to do with game, it has everything to do with sales though. Notice this is in the SALE forum not GAMING forum. Now could you get off your fanboy ars and realize that all that the BDA is a group of over 200 companies not just 18... so everyone knows Sony is only getting paid royalty fees for being on the main developers of the format, just like Phillips.
It's unfortunate but Blu-Ray is not the PS3, which I think many people here are trying to use it as a symptom of.
No matter how well Blu-Ray does, it doesn't hide the fact that the gaming division is still struggling with the PS3 or for that matter that the PS3 has set them back more than a decade in profits. Only the PS2 (with ever diminishing returns) and the questionable PSP keep them afloat.
It'll be years before Blu-Ray brings any substantial income to Sony, but that doesn't stop people in the mean time from trying to use it as a diversion from the PS3's mediocre performance and bleak future.
HD TVs still make up less than 10% of the market. And Blu-Ray allegedly only has 6% of the DVD market. Blu-Ray, Divided twenty some ways, that's not much money for Sony in the mean time, at least not on the scale of the operation they're running. In the future it may be a cash cow, but it isn't now and with new formats on the rise including the fast growing digital distribution format, there are many threats to Blu-Ray that DVD never had to bother with.
| Onimusha12 said: It's unfortunate but Blu-Ray is not the PS3, which I think many people here are trying to use it as a symptom of. No matter how well Blu-Ray does, it doesn't hide the fact that the [1]gaming division is still struggling with the PS3 or for that matter that the [2]PS3 has set them back more than a decade in profits. Only the PS2 (with ever diminishing returns) and the questionable PSP keep them afloat. [3]It'll be years before Blu-Ray brings any substantial income to Sony, but that doesn't stop people in the mean time from trying to use it as a diversion from the [4]PS3's mediocre performance and bleak future. [5]HD TVs still make up less than 10% of the market. And Blu-Ray allegedly only has 6% of the DVD market. Blu-Ray, Divided twenty some ways, that's not much money for Sony in the mean time, at least not on the scale of the operation they're running. [6]In the future it may be a cash cow, but it isn't now and with new formats on the rise including the fast growing digital distribution format, there are [7]many threats to Blu-Ray that DVD never had to bother with. |
bold 1: They make a profit with every console sold now.
bold 2: No it hasn't. LOL.
bold 3: Blu-Ray is growing faster than DVD did over the same period. Go ahead and put the word 'substantial' in there and define it however you want in order to minimize the knockout punch Sony and the BDA dealt to Toshiba and Microsoft, who thought next-gen discs were well worth fighting over.
bold 4: Hasn't PS3 sold what 360 did, or better, over the same period? And isn't it not too far behind where PS2 was at this point? "mediocre performance and bleak future" indeed. Have you compared upcoming titles of PS3 vs 360 and Wii. No contest. Get out of the way of the 10 year juggernaut. Xbots get ready to drop $600 more soon for a 720 and all the crap accessories you'll have to buy.
bold 5: 10% and 6% show the enormous room to grow still. You proved the opposite point of what you wanted.
bold 6: Bet your ass.
bold 7: But on the other hand DVD was slowed b/c you couldn't play all your VHS movies in the new DVD player. But we can play all our DVDs in upscaling Blu-Ray players. Less barrier to conversion to Blu-Ray. for the upside potential, see point 5 which you made so nicely.
| Loud_Hot_White_Box said: bold 1: They make a profit with every console sold now. bold 2: No it hasn't. LOL. (...)bold 4: Hasn't PS3 sold what 360 did, or better, over the same period? And isn't it not too far behind where PS2 was at this point? "mediocre performance and bleak future" indeed. Have you compared upcoming titles of PS3 vs 360 and Wii. No contest. Get out of the way of the 10 year juggernaut. Xbots get ready to drop $600 more soon for a 720 and all the crap accessories you'll have to buy. (...) |
I don't know why I'm bothering to reply to someone with a RROD avatar, but anyway:
1: They don't, as they said on their financial reports and conference. They're hoping to make a profit on each hardware unit towards the end of the current fiscal year:
"Currently, the cost is higher than the price, but toward the second half the fiscal year '08 we could catch up."
2: Do you call that a rebuttal?
4: If you align launches in each territory, it's not behind the PS2 in Europe, but it's very far behind in Japan and USA. Vgchartz has graphics you can use to check this, you know?
Note that soon they will be behind in Europe too, as the PS2 had a big boost at this point (holiday season).
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