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FIT_Gamer on 25 March 2017
thismeintiel said:
Funny how Democrats are trying to claim victory, when they had nothing to do with it. The Conservative members of the Republican party didn't want an Obamacare-lite plan, so said they were going to vote no on the bill. Ryan and/or Trump didn't want the embarrassment of a loss, so they just pulled the bill.

Almost as funny as Trump blaming Democrats for his administration's inability to convince their own party to cast votes in their favor. He's a bitch, and terrible leader. Never takes responsibility for anything, unless it makes him look like the hero. 



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NightDragon83 on 25 March 2017

Good... "Trumpcare" was just the GOP's version of Obamacare-lite anyway. Let Obamacare fail on its own, it doesn't need help being killed, and focus efforts on things people actually want NOW like tax reform, eliminating redundant and overburdening economic regulations, and working on a new infrastructure deal.



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VitaminZ on 25 March 2017

Obamacare is a disaster, but Trumpcare was a disaster too. Obamacare is going to have to be replaced within a few years, and I have no confidence DC can do the job.



thismeintiel on 25 March 2017
FIT_Gamer said:
thismeintiel said:
Funny how Democrats are trying to claim victory, when they had nothing to do with it. The Conservative members of the Republican party didn't want an Obamacare-lite plan, so said they were going to vote no on the bill. Ryan and/or Trump didn't want the embarrassment of a loss, so they just pulled the bill.

Almost as funny as Trump blaming Democrats for his administration's inability to convince their own party to cast votes in their favor. He's a bitch, and terrible leader. Never takes responsibility for anything, unless it makes him look like the hero. 

I'd say it's funnier, but the other is funny, too.  Though, your description of him could be the same for many Presidents, including Obama.



 

thismeintiel on 25 March 2017
shikamaru317 said:
Areym said:

it's total shit for some and life saving for others. It's deeply flawed but I still think it can be salvaged.

I won't deny that it is invaluable for people on the lowest income bracket, but for upper-lower class and middle class it's terrible. It has been a curse on my family, my father's premiums have more than doubled since it was implemented, he is now paying like 20% of his paycheck for a plan that is basically worthless due to the high deductible, and it doesn't even cover most of my mom's expensive medications.

The problem with Obamacare is that it's the insurance companies wet dream.  Not only is everyone forced to buy it, even if they don't want it, but it made lower cost plans that many were grandfathered into junk policies, so they had to get a new plan.  That means no more low premiums or copays.  As for the poorest, we already had programs to cover much of their costs.  It's called Medicaid.  If we really wanted to cover more people, that could have been altered.  This was a power grab by the govenrment, as it always is, done supposedly in the name of the poor.



 

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RJ_Sizzle on 25 March 2017

Going after this bill was ridiculous anyway. It's the republicans and the Trump administration still chasing after the shadow of Obama instead of trying to move forward. He ran a platform of trying to demonize him and undo everything he did, and now the ashes are settling on his disastrous first 100 days and exposing him, big time. You're not invincible, Donnie. It's time to act like a president now instead of a blowhard CEO.

I hope that stupid FCC proposal is shot down next.



Peh on 25 March 2017

Saw this coming from a mile away.



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iron_megalith on 25 March 2017
RJ_Sizzle said:
Going after this bill was ridiculous anyway. It's the republicans and the Trump administration still chasing after the shadow of Obama instead of trying to move forward. He ran a platform of trying to demonize him and undo everything he did, and now the ashes are settling on his disastrous first 100 days and exposing him, big time. You're not invincible, Donnie. It's time to act like a president now instead of a blowhard CEO.

I hope that stupid FCC proposal is shot down next.

Ridiculous? Obama care is ridiculous as well. The problem here was that they were trying to replace a shitty system with an equally shitty one.



Locknuts on 25 March 2017

The hardcore conservatives in his party would rather lose everything than allow public healthcare to exist at all.



Never on 25 March 2017

Most of them, including Trump, probably secretly want it to die because they know trump care would kill their party.