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Wyrdness said:

I know all about Destiny I've followed the SC2 scene since WOL when he was a cult figure in it much like what Avilo is today, he's definitely had his moments like when he got dropped by Root over the MSN convo incident.

I've known him for a while myself, which was why I decided to link that other debate he had where the other guy knew his game. Imagine if Artosis was there though  



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BraLoD said:
onionberry said:

a lot of dumb stuff with dumb arguments

I need examples, I have to know for myself if it's dumb or not xP

He claimed that Mexican immigrants are creating enclaves in the US to recapture the states they lost during the Manifest destiny, for instance. Which is funny for a history buff btw, since that's exactly how Texas became american in the first place.

He also claimed that rich black americans commit more crimes than poor white americans, that irish and italians where always considered white in america (yeah, certainly no reason why they got shunned in the 19th century. Especially the irish where seen in a similar way as the right sees muslim peaple nowadays), and that Black lives matter doesn't disavow violence (which it does).

Also tweeted that a nation which cannot decide who to let in or who to remove ain't a nation at all.




https://www.google.com/amp/www.craveonline.com/design/1233305-jontron-issues-non-apology-controversial-race-comments/amp

“I was a bit all over the place and I said a lot of stuff that could be misconstrued in all sorts of way,” he said in the new video. “Things are being extracted from this that I know I don’t think. I was in there under a lot of pressure … and as it became clear I suck at debate. So now every haphazard, off-hand remark I made in the heat of the moment has been dissected and speculated on, so I’d like to clarify.”

I like how people with such viewpoints always go back to their safe zone. Always saying crap like "errrh i misspoke" or "dem liberals and their PC SJW's tryna take me liberty". How can anyone even defend him right now? His apology is a joke (if you can even call it that)



Chazore said:

I've known him for a while myself, which was why I decided to link that other debate he had where the other guy knew his game. Imagine if Artosis was there though  

Artosis and Day 9 would school Destiny anf JonTron.



I feel for the guy, but man did he screw up big time. You can't come to the table with big controversial statement without being able to really back them up. Whether or not you agree with the things he says, he was a disaster in that debate.



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Aura7541 said:

Not to mention, debating is a skill in itself and JonTron learned that the hard way. He thought that he would be participating in a "shoot the shit" discussion with Destiny while Destiny was on debate mode, hence why JonTron was frequently on the defensive.

And when someone knows how Destiny operates, it's not that hard to beat him in a debate. His recent debate with Sargon of Akkad was a pretty good example of this as he consistently got frustrated because Sargon wouldn't take the strawman bait.

See, that's an example of him being weak to stress when the other person doesn't take his bait, he crumbles against the other side not faltering, rather than himself putting focus on strengthening his side of the debate. I've seen him lose his shit sometimes at even the smallest of talks/thing.

He needs to be a bit more calm and collect when the other side doesn't always fall into his traps, or at elast plan around them and make a better debate  



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

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Wyrdness said:

Artosis and Day 9 would school Destiny anf JonTron.

Sean, without a doubt lmao.

(1m 12s for the pun)

Love me some Sean talks though. I try to catch his dailies now and then, including his talks of life and advice. I think he'd make for a few great debates against Destiny or Jon.



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

He reminds me the Fatman who apperas on Tekken.



VGPolyglot said:
BraLoD said:

That sounds like something I would hear out of Trump, not a good start xP

It's also ironic considering that his father is Iranian.

Also, he seems to have a very weak grasp of american history judging by the remark he hade about japan to justify immigration bans. How about all of those white immigrants get the fuck off native american land, if that's how he feels?

And yeah, I'm not american and there seems to be a sublte diffrence in ideas as to what constitutes 'white' between america and europe, but JonTron doesn't quite fit the bill himselt imo. He has pretty distict persian features, wich usually get's people sorted into the 'brown' category regardless of actual skintone in europe. In fact europe in my expierience has much more sublte ethnic discrimination in general. People arent just neccessarily racist against arab/persian/turkish immigrants, but also against immigrants from 'white' countries like poland, serbia, bulgaria, the ukraine, and russia. Obviously this changes a lot depending on wich country in europe you look at too.

The american idea of 'white' seems to be much more closely tied to actual skintone, but seeing how his father is an iranian immigrant, a coutry wich is on the banlist, he's a hypocrite either way.



SpokenTruth said:
Anfebious said:

What I don't seem to understand is why he has to apologize about the things he said. If he really belives everything he said then there is no reason to go around apologizing to it. That's the reason why his comment sounded so fake, because he doesn't really feel he has to apologize.

That's his point of view and no one will be able to change it, specially not if everyone demands him to apologize for it.

He apologized only because it was hitting him in the pocketbook.  He's not sorry about what he said, he's sorry he was called out on it and is losing subscribers/money/etc...

He should have kept his mouth shut in the first place!



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