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JEMC said:
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, sadly its a ground up build, so OS is needed.

As some have said, there are ways to get cheap keys for one, so it shouldn't be a problem if you're ok using ebay or similar alternatives. If not, it will take a noticeable chunk of your budget.

bigtakilla said:

very interested in this build, if I did upgrade to the 1070 gtx, it would still run well with the parts listed here?

That's a well rounded build if you don't plan to overclock (for that you need a "K" CPU from Intel and a Z motherboard), although I would advise you to get 16GB of RAM, not 8. I know it sounds like a lot, but there are games like Battlefield that already run better with 16GB than with 8.

The 480/1060 cards are more than enough to play current games at Full HD (by the way, I assume you already have a monitor/TV to play). The 1070 is an excellent purchase, tho (I should know, as I got one!).

Lastly, but only if you can, try to get an SSD. Even if it's only 64 or 120GB (enough for the OS and other system programs) with a regular HDD for the games, you'll notice the PC to feel faster and snappier.

will definitely look into it, though I know ssds run at quite the higher pricepoint. 



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bigtakilla said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Here is what that price will get you:

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/W8bBWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/W8bBWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£187.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£84.01 @ More Computers)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£63.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Black 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.25 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  (£239.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23  ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.48 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (£39.00 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSD1 DVD/CD Writer  (£13.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £705.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 20:59 GMT+0000

And it will certainly perform better than a ps4 pro in most games. We don't really know Scorpio so idk about that. What I do recommend however is to spend $150 more on a 1070 instead or wait a couple of months until AMD's Ryzen 5 CPUs come out which may lower the cpu cost more. Also add like $20 more for Windows 10 from Kinguin.

very interested in this build, if I did upgrade to the 1070 gtx, it would still run well with the parts listed here?

Yeaa! After the 1070, the total power requirement according to PCPartPicker is about 310sh Watts so a 500 Watt Powersupply is still more than enough. And the bottlenecks will be minimal. If you do decide to get an SSD, you can choose a western digital Blue hard drive instead of their black series since the Blue ones are cheaper but not as fast which won't really matter much since an SSD is faster than both.

But on a budget build, SSD's don't benefit gaming all that much in most cases apart from faster loading times hence why I didn't bother to include it since that money could be going else where like more ram for example. Yes, the OS would be more snappy and the PC in general just feels faster but getting an i5 or 1070 or 16gb of ram would benefit you more in terms of gaming than an ssd will. But if you get an i5 + 1070 + 16gb of ram and still have enough money to get an ssd, go for it but it is certainly going well above the inital price range.



                  

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m0ney said:
bigtakilla said:

Lol, no doubt.

It's true but not many people know about it still. They are legal Windows 10 keys from scrapped PCs - you download and install Windows 10 from the official Microsoft website then buy the 5 usd key on ebay and activate your Windows 10. So the argument in favor of consoles that you need 100 usd OS for your PC does not hold anymore.

Sorry, what makes them legal? Is this like kinguin keys where you have to phone in to Microsoft in order to properly register your key because the online authenication tools have been designed to root out and stop this practice?



Captain_Yuri said:
bigtakilla said:

very interested in this build, if I did upgrade to the 1070 gtx, it would still run well with the parts listed here?

Yeaa! After the 1070, the total power requirement according to PCPartPicker is about 310sh Watts so a 500 Watt Powersupply is still more than enough. And the bottlenecks will be minimal. If you do decide to get an SSD, you can choose a western digital Blue hard drive instead of their black series since the Blue ones are cheaper but not as fast which won't really matter much since an SSD is faster than both.

But on a budget build, SSD's don't benefit gaming all that much in most cases apart from faster loading times hence why I didn't bother to include it since that money could be going else where like more ram for example. Yes, the OS would be more snappy and the PC in general just feels faster but getting an i5 or 1070 or 16gb of ram would benefit you more in terms of gaming than an ssd will. But if you get an i5 + 1070 + 16gb of ram and still have enough money to get an ssd, go for it but it is certainly going well above the inital price range.

Yeah, I might save the ssd for next years purchase (or for at least a down the road purchase). If I went 16 gb ram what would you recommend?



bigtakilla said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Yeaa! After the 1070, the total power requirement according to PCPartPicker is about 310sh Watts so a 500 Watt Powersupply is still more than enough. And the bottlenecks will be minimal. If you do decide to get an SSD, you can choose a western digital Blue hard drive instead of their black series since the Blue ones are cheaper but not as fast which won't really matter much since an SSD is faster than both.

But on a budget build, SSD's don't benefit gaming all that much in most cases apart from faster loading times hence why I didn't bother to include it since that money could be going else where like more ram for example. Yes, the OS would be more snappy and the PC in general just feels faster but getting an i5 or 1070 or 16gb of ram would benefit you more in terms of gaming than an ssd will. But if you get an i5 + 1070 + 16gb of ram and still have enough money to get an ssd, go for it but it is certainly going well above the inital price range.

Yeah, I might save the ssd for next years purchase (or for at least a down the road purchase). If I went 16 gb ram what would you recommend?

I usually go with Kingston Fury ddr4 since they never failed me yet while others have but Gskill and Corsairs are usually pretty good. The frequency generally won't matter too much but 2400mhz or higher is usually good.



                  

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With that budget i'd be looking at used market for best bang per buck.

For a budget like this you have to stretch to get a non-K i5 and a 480...when you could have an older i7/i5 and a factory OC'd 980Ti and would perform as well as any new build with a GTX 1070....really a whole other level of performance better.



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bigtakilla said:
This iz $1000 out the gate, but does have a 1070.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/cart/add.html?tag=pcgamingbuilds02-20&AssociateTag=pcgamingbuilds02-20&ASIN.1=B00UNTFYA4&Quantity.1=1&ASIN.2=B018JYHBE6&Quantity.2=1&ASIN.3=B01GVNN9GQ&Quantity.3=1&ASIN.4=B01MZZJ1P0&Quantity.4=1&ASIN.5=B01N0ZSN45&Quantity.5=1&ASIN.6=B006WAGGUK&Quantity.6=1&ASIN.7=B0088PUEPK&Quantity.7=1

That RAM you've listed is DDR3. Have you checked if the motherboard supports it? I'm asking because while the CPU does still support DDR3, some mobos have moved to DDR4 only.

bigtakilla said:
JEMC said:

As some have said, there are ways to get cheap keys for one, so it shouldn't be a problem if you're ok using ebay or similar alternatives. If not, it will take a noticeable chunk of your budget.

That's a well rounded build if you don't plan to overclock (for that you need a "K" CPU from Intel and a Z motherboard), although I would advise you to get 16GB of RAM, not 8. I know it sounds like a lot, but there are games like Battlefield that already run better with 16GB than with 8.

The 480/1060 cards are more than enough to play current games at Full HD (by the way, I assume you already have a monitor/TV to play). The 1070 is an excellent purchase, tho (I should know, as I got one!).

Lastly, but only if you can, try to get an SSD. Even if it's only 64 or 120GB (enough for the OS and other system programs) with a regular HDD for the games, you'll notice the PC to feel faster and snappier.

will definitely look into it, though I know ssds run at quite the higher pricepoint. 

That's why I mentioned a lower capacity SSD, and only if you an strech your budget into it.

As Yuri have said, more RAM and a faster card will have a much bigger impact in gaming than any SSD.



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Asus Prime B250M-A Intel B250 83€ //

16GB Crucial CT2K8G4DFD824A DDR4-2400 DIMM CL17 Dual Kit 109€ //

240GB Corsair Force LE 2.5" (SSD) 85 € //

1000GB Seagate Desktop HDD (HDD) 50€ //

550 Watt be quiet! System Power B8 bulk Non-Modular 80+ 60€ //

Intel Core i5 7500 4x 3.40GHz - 3,80 GHz 200€ //

3GB Palit GeForce GTX 1060 Super Jetstream Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Retail) 200€ //

"a case at around 30 $"

 

with this you will pay 817 € but you would have a good system where you can upgrade the grapics card in 2-3 years without any problems, all games should easily run in "1080p @ Ultra Settings" by 50-60 fps



Thats not bad......  



potato_hamster said:
m0ney said:

It's true but not many people know about it still. They are legal Windows 10 keys from scrapped PCs - you download and install Windows 10 from the official Microsoft website then buy the 5 usd key on ebay and activate your Windows 10. So the argument in favor of consoles that you need 100 usd OS for your PC does not hold anymore.

Sorry, what makes them legal? Is this like kinguin keys where you have to phone in to Microsoft in order to properly register your key because the online authenication tools have been designed to root out and stop this practice?

The way I understand they are 'used' keys from broken PCs. Trust me, if they were not legal Ebay would never allow selling them.



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