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Even if PSNow worked perfectly (which it doesn't, resolution gets really grainy and input lag is noticeable in many games), most of the PSNow library simply isn't things that I want to play in 2017.



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roadkillers said:

I also agree with that. I have Netflix and I get it for $9 a month. That is the same price as going to the theatre for one person. Why would I want to go to a theatre when my friends can come over where it is cheaper and opionally more fun?

I guess this question kind of goes beyond the bounds of the thread, but it's a subject I'm interested in so waht the hell...

Not withstanding that movies take quite some time to go from theaters to Netflix (if they even make it at all), there is something to be said for the theater experience IMO.

Going to the theater, sitting in the seats, seeing the huge projection screen, watching previews, sitting through the credits, all of that is still important to me.

There are a couple of boutique theaters in my town and I'll frequently catch screenings of old movies there. Even movies that I have on BluRay or movies that are available on streaming. 

The experience is valuable to me in a way that sitting at home and watching NetFlix is not. It's hard to explain. 



There are too many flaws with PSNow to make it a viable replacement for PS4.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
So how would the games run on even the crappiest PCs though? Is the quality the same as paying on the PS4? How long are the games available on PSNow? Do they remove certain games after a certain amount of time? Is there a guarantee that I will always be able to play any of the games that I want at anytime that I want? What happens if I pay $100 a year and all the OLDER games they come out with I don't want seeing as we have no control over what they release? And what games will be there and when?

Nah PSNow definitely doesn't make the PS4 look like a waste of money imo. There are far too many questions remaining for that to be said.

Everything runs on their servers, the problem would be internet speeds. Some smartTV's used to use PSNow. I have tried PSNow at a friends that had crappy internet and there were some problems playing RE5 co-op. Which I would completely understand for Fighting Games, but I don't play Fighting Games competitively (From my stance I saw no issue with Mortal Kombat). I haven't noticed any games leaving PSNow, but there are a lot of Ubisoft titles and 3rd party and I'm sure they could go. Just like Netflix I assume some leave and some stay with exclusive Sony titles (Like Netflix originals) staying. I haven't experienced any game being down and all the saves are made in the cloud so my data hasn't been lost. 

On a side note you can earn trophies with this system. So I see trophy enthusiasts liking this model. They also have other models which are more expensive and this is definitely seen as the best deal. From where I stand I can already tell the current selection is worth my $100. If they add more it only adds up the value. 

Games I did not get a chance to play that are on PSNow:

God of War: Chains of Olympus, God of War: Ascension, Asura's Wrath, Assassins Creed III, Batman: Origins, Beyond Two Souls, Dark Souls II, Darksides I and II, Dead or Alive 5, Devil May Cry 4, Enslaved, F.E.A.R., Infamous 2, ICO, Injustice, Motorstorm Apocolypse, Mortal Kombat Komplete, Ni No Kuni, Ninja Gaiden 2, tons of Ratchet and Clanks, Red Dead Redemption (Just love this one), Saints Row 2&3&4, Sly Cooper Thieves in Time, and Uncharted 3.

Excluded Red Dead these are all games I have never played. If I wanted to pay for them individually it would be over $500. Just to note there is no way I can play all of these games in a year and finish them. 



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roadkillers said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
So how would the games run on even the crappiest PCs though? Is the quality the same as paying on the PS4? How long are the games available on PSNow? Do they remove certain games after a certain amount of time? Is there a guarantee that I will always be able to play any of the games that I want at anytime that I want? What happens if I pay $100 a year and all the OLDER games they come out with I don't want seeing as we have no control over what they release? And what games will be there and when?

Nah PSNow definitely doesn't make the PS4 look like a waste of money imo. There are far too many questions remaining for that to be said.

Everything runs on their servers, the problem would be internet speeds. Some smartTV's used to use PSNow. I have tried PSNow at a friends that had crappy internet and there were some problems playing RE5 co-op. Which I would completely understand for Fighting Games, but I don't play Fighting Games competitively (From my stance I saw no issue with Mortal Kombat). I haven't noticed any games leaving PSNow, but there are a lot of Ubisoft titles and 3rd party and I'm sure they could go. Just like Netflix I assume some leave and some stay with exclusive Sony titles (Like Netflix originals) staying. I haven't experienced any game being down and all the saves are made in the cloud so my data hasn't been lost. 

On a side note you can earn trophies with this system. So I see trophy enthusiasts liking this model. They also have other models which are more expensive and this is definitely seen as the best deal. From where I stand I can already tell the current selection is worth my $100. If they add more it only adds up the value. 

Games I did not get a chance to play that are on PSNow:

God of War: Chains of Olympus, God of War: Ascension, Asura's Wrath, Assassins Creed III, Batman: Origins, Beyond Two Souls, Dark Souls II, Darksides I and II, Dead or Alive 5, Devil May Cry 4, Enslaved, F.E.A.R., Infamous 2, ICO, Injustice, Motorstorm Apocolypse, Mortal Kombat Komplete, Ni No Kuni, Ninja Gaiden 2, tons of Ratchet and Clanks, Red Dead Redemption (Just love this one), Saints Row 2&3&4, Sly Cooper Thieves in Time, and Uncharted 3.

Excluded Red Dead these are all games I have never played. If I wanted to pay for them individually it would be over $500. Just to note there is no way I can play all of these games in a year and finish them. 

Wait but NONE of those games are PS4 games those are all PS3 and before games games. So I would have to wait until the PS5 comes out just to play the PS4 games? That would suck lol. All great games to play for those who never owned a PS3 or before but to say it makes the PS4 seem like a waste of money is a bit of a stretch.

But good luck on your back log of games! Some really good ones to play there!



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specialk said:
roadkillers said:

I also agree with that. I have Netflix and I get it for $9 a month. That is the same price as going to the theatre for one person. Why would I want to go to a theatre when my friends can come over where it is cheaper and opionally more fun?

I guess this question kind of goes beyond the bounds of the thread, but it's a subject I'm interested in so waht the hell...

Not withstanding that movies take quite some time to go from theaters to Netflix (if they even make it at all), there is something to be said for the theater experience IMO.

Going to the theater, sitting in the seats, seeing the huge projection screen, watching previews, sitting through the credits, all of that is still important to me.

There are a couple of boutique theaters in my town and I'll frequently catch screenings of old movies there. Even movies that I have on BluRay or movies that are available on streaming. 

The experience is valuable to me in a way that sitting at home and watching NetFlix is not. It's hard to explain. 

Definitely, you're not the only one. I used to love going to the theatres when I was young with friends to see brand new movies. Now I see it as annoying. The seats are gross and greasy, people talk during the movie, sleep during the movie, babies cry during a movie, people take out their phones during a movie, they move in an out during a movie, kick your seat, make messes, and I really don't want to deal with vast majority of people. 

It's easier to have some close friends over. Make some home-made popcorn for $5 in total, or order cheap pizza, have a beer, wine, or whatever and enjoy the movie. In these cases we don't have to worry about upsetting someone else, we know the relationship between us is more important than the actual movie. It's a good time.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
roadkillers said:

Everything runs on their servers, the problem would be internet speeds. Some smartTV's used to use PSNow. I have tried PSNow at a friends that had crappy internet and there were some problems playing RE5 co-op. Which I would completely understand for Fighting Games, but I don't play Fighting Games competitively (From my stance I saw no issue with Mortal Kombat). I haven't noticed any games leaving PSNow, but there are a lot of Ubisoft titles and 3rd party and I'm sure they could go. Just like Netflix I assume some leave and some stay with exclusive Sony titles (Like Netflix originals) staying. I haven't experienced any game being down and all the saves are made in the cloud so my data hasn't been lost. 

On a side note you can earn trophies with this system. So I see trophy enthusiasts liking this model. They also have other models which are more expensive and this is definitely seen as the best deal. From where I stand I can already tell the current selection is worth my $100. If they add more it only adds up the value. 

Games I did not get a chance to play that are on PSNow:

God of War: Chains of Olympus, God of War: Ascension, Asura's Wrath, Assassins Creed III, Batman: Origins, Beyond Two Souls, Dark Souls II, Darksides I and II, Dead or Alive 5, Devil May Cry 4, Enslaved, F.E.A.R., Infamous 2, ICO, Injustice, Motorstorm Apocolypse, Mortal Kombat Komplete, Ni No Kuni, Ninja Gaiden 2, tons of Ratchet and Clanks, Red Dead Redemption (Just love this one), Saints Row 2&3&4, Sly Cooper Thieves in Time, and Uncharted 3.

Excluded Red Dead these are all games I have never played. If I wanted to pay for them individually it would be over $500. Just to note there is no way I can play all of these games in a year and finish them. 

Wait but NONE of those games are PS4 games those are all PS3 and before games games. So I would have to wait until the PS5 comes out just to play the PS4 games? That would suck lol. All great games to play for those who never owned a PS3 or before but to say it makes the PS4 seem like a waste of money is a bit of a stretch.

But good luck on your back log of games! Some really good ones to play there!

Yeah i can't wait to play them and with the promise of PS4 games (which I don't own) it should be a fun experience. I just need Microsoft and Nintendo (Oh God) to jump on this wagon. I need to play Breath of the Wild within the next 5 years.



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Even ignoring the current limitations of PSNow, have we actually gotten any details on the PS4 front yet? If PSNow gets the PS4's entire library day 1 then sure, the PS4's value diminishes considerably. If it ends up just being a selection of older games though, i doubt it'll have much of an effect on those currently planning to buy a PS4.



roadkillers said:

Definitely, you're not the only one. I used to love going to the theatres when I was young with friends to see brand new movies. Now I see it as annoying. The seats are gross and greasy, people talk during the movie, sleep during the movie, babies cry during a movie, people take out their phones during a movie, they move in an out during a movie, kick your seat, make messes, and I really don't want to deal with vast majority of people. 

It's easier to have some close friends over. Make some home-made popcorn for $5 in total, or order cheap pizza, have a beer, wine, or whatever and enjoy the movie. In these cases we don't have to worry about upsetting someone else, we know the relationship between us is more important than the actual movie. It's a good time.

One of my local theaters is really badass about kicking people out if they talk.