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Aura7541 said:
epicurean said:

What he said.  Conservatives are starting, though they don't seem to be nearly as organized as liberals who, in my area, seem to be trying to close a business weekly.  

I'm not choosing sides here, I just think it all ends very, very badly.  Just IMO.

Yeah, #DumpKellogs and #DumpStarWars are two other examples of conservative boycotts.

I hadn't heard of those two.  What were they boycotting over?



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VGPolyglot said:
epicurean said:

Wow.  Can someone explain how it's racist?  Or did I not see something?

It's not referring to race, it's referring to women. He mocked International Women's Day, people got upset and he criticised people for being upset (though he probably purposefully posted that to bait people).

And yet the media painted him as racist. And that got retweeted, etc.. The damage is done.



Aura7541 said:
VGPolyglot said:

What difference does that make? The fact is, women are treated unfairly in the workforce.

Proof by Assertion. Considering you have frequently used this fallacy and so far, have not learned to not use it every time we have a discussion, my interest in continuing it is close to zero.

http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-the-gender-wage-gap-in-canada

http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-206381/Working-women-housework.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/the-scourge-of-the-female-time-crunch/470379/



Lafiel said:
Aura7541 said:

It's basically a dad joke, similar along the lines of "hugh mungus".

it's a bit different to crack such a joke on international women's day, which is all about respect for women - it means he has none

The joke only worked on that day because the hastag was trending. I'm sure you got that. Especially when he wrote that tweet with his girlfriend.



epicurean said:
Aura7541 said:

Yeah, #DumpKellogs and #DumpStarWars are two other examples of conservative boycotts.

I hadn't heard of those two.  What were they boycotting over?

Kelloggs blacklisted Breitbart, so fans of that outlet got pissed and uploaded videos of them throwing Kelloggs cereal boxes in the trash or flushing the cereal down the toilet, lol.

Star Wars was even dumber. Rebel Media (namely Gavin McGinnes) attempted to start a boycott on Rogue One because the protagonist was female.



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VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

The joke was only aimed at women who supported #ADayWithoutWomen.

And what's wrong with women supporting that? Women are still being paid less than men, and they do much more housework than men, so it's fair that they should protest unequal treatment.

The wage gap myth again? As for housework, are they forced to do that work?



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

Proof by Assertion. Considering you have frequently used this fallacy and so far, have not learned to not use it every time we have a discussion, my interest in continuing it is close to zero.

http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-the-gender-wage-gap-in-canada

http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-206381/Working-women-housework.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/the-scourge-of-the-female-time-crunch/470379/

No, no. We were talking about the earnings gap, not wage gap. When you're comparing women's studies majors to engineers, wages will always be substantially different.



Nautilus said:
While I respect him for his atitude, in the sense that he sticked to his guns, I dont like him, and really dont care what he does.

This sums up my opinion on the situation. I really don't care for Colin although the fallout from a four word tweet was ludicrous. If the situation was reversed and there was "a day without men" and a woman tweeted "Finally, Peace and Quiet". No one would have given a damn.



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

Proof by Assertion. Considering you have frequently used this fallacy and so far, have not learned to not use it every time we have a discussion, my interest in continuing it is close to zero.

http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-the-gender-wage-gap-in-canada

http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-206381/Working-women-housework.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/the-scourge-of-the-female-time-crunch/470379/

One of your sources conflated pay with earnings when they are different from each other. Did you even proofread or did you just go on Google, pick the articles that looked good to you, and copy/pasted the links without double checking? This is why I'm not interested in continuing the discussion because of your lack of caution.



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

Proof by Assertion. Considering you have frequently used this fallacy and so far, have not learned to not use it every time we have a discussion, my interest in continuing it is close to zero.

http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-the-gender-wage-gap-in-canada

http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-206381/Working-women-housework.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/the-scourge-of-the-female-time-crunch/470379/

I don't think there's any arguing that women do more of their fair share of housework.  My wife works much harder than me.  She is awesome.  I feel like I'm probably not alone in husbands thinking this of their wives.  

As far as the wage gap goes, it seems far from settled.  The 78 cents on the dollar is said to be a fallacy by some, including forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/#355896362596

I've seen studies both ways.  I'm not saying one is true and the other isn't.  But I've read a lot of well sourced articles (like the one above) who dispute this claim quite a bit.

Again - women are awesome.  They deserve as much as men (if not more).  I don't want to live in a world without women.  But a joke as simple as the one he made having this reactions is...reaching.



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