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brendude13 on 21 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
potato_hamster said:

That is ridiculously simplistic.

Well, this is a video game forum, I'm hoping that you're not looking for a full-on essay from me, especially when I'm talking to people who are not going to change their minds no matter what I say. I'm just engaging with you and the others because it's hard for me to just read these posts and say nothing.

There's a reason for that.

We know. Keep telling us how much more tolerant and better you are than us.



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VGPolyglot on 21 March 2017
brendude13 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, this is a video game forum, I'm hoping that you're not looking for a full-on essay from me, especially when I'm talking to people who are not going to change their minds no matter what I say. I'm just engaging with you and the others because it's hard for me to just read these posts and say nothing.

There's a reason for that.

We know. Keep telling us how much more tolerant and better you are than us.

There are things to be tolerant of, like what food or video game someone prefers. Others, like racism, sexism and xenophobia are harmful and should not be tolerated at all. Also, you could talk about the contrary: because you can't get me to change my mind, does that mean that you're wrong too?



Lawlight on 21 March 2017
coolbeans said:
Aura7541 said:
I respect his willingness to stick up for his opinions, but this is the same person who called people who criticized Mass Effect 3's ending as entitled brats.

That's where I'm at with this hooplah: a guy I think has a so-so opinion on games in general, disingenously crapped on consumers regarding ME3 (plus other shameful moments we could dive into), and isn't all that great a writer/reporter, is going independent.  Hooray?  

And as far as getting no support from his colleagues: maybe they found his humor tasteless too.  It's possible for his colleagues to have their own opinions which may run contrary to his and didn't feel like sticking for him on something they disagree with in principle.  This seems especially likely considering Greg Miller seems to be a feminist, or perhaps an ally to them in most cases.  

There's a difference between not supporting someone and actively throwing them under the bus. Greg Miller, who in my opinion, is just a disingenuous hype man did the latter. He could just have let it slide but no, he had to make a statement about how Moriarty was a bad person.



potato_hamster on 21 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
brendude13 said:

There's a reason for that.

We know. Keep telling us how much more tolerant and better you are than us.

There are things to be tolerant of, like what food or video game someone prefers. Others, like racism, sexism and xenophobia are harmful and should not be tolerated at all. Also, you could talk about the contrary: because you can't get me to change my mind, does that mean that you're wrong too?

You're not going to get anyone to change their mind because your arguments have no basis in reality, and you've attempted to tell other people what they're thinking.



Lawlight on 21 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
brendude13 said:

There's a reason for that.

We know. Keep telling us how much more tolerant and better you are than us.

There are things to be tolerant of, like what food or video game someone prefers. Others, like racism, sexism and xenophobia are harmful and should not be tolerated at all. Also, you could talk about the contrary: because you can't get me to change my mind, does that mean that you're wrong too?

Except we can discuss what your definition of racism or sexism is. Is BotW really a sexist, transphobic game? Is Moriarty really a misogynist?



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VGPolyglot on 21 March 2017
potato_hamster said:
VGPolyglot said:

There are things to be tolerant of, like what food or video game someone prefers. Others, like racism, sexism and xenophobia are harmful and should not be tolerated at all. Also, you could talk about the contrary: because you can't get me to change my mind, does that mean that you're wrong too?

You're not going to get anyone to change their mind because your arguments have no basis in reality, and you've attempted to tell other people what they're thinking.

So, you're going to deny that racism, sexism and xenophobia exist?



Nem on 21 March 2017
Lawlight said:
Nem said:

I say this is the regressive right. Because why not? Anyone can come up with bullshit, and yours stinks.

Leave your backwater politics out of societal disputes. If you think it's only left wing supporters that get offended easily, maybe you should look at the self-righteous religious right wingers. Oh what's that? Generalising and it's not that clear cut? Shocking!

First, calm down.

Secondly regressive right makes no sense because the right (far right, alt-right) is already considered a pejorative term.

Thirdly, self-righteous right wingers are a dying breed and do not have much of a voice in the MSM which leans left. Or are you're talking about Islamists - I wonder whether they considered self-righteous religious right wingers?

Lastly, I will ask you - what's your question or point? Did you just post to essentially say that the term offends you?

NONE of it makes sense because it isn't a political issue! That is my problem! You linked a story that is deplorable, with wich i agree that lots of people were incredibly toxic about and should be ashamed of themselves and all of a sudden you peg it to political preference? What?! Political preference has nothing to do with societal behaviour. Most parties today even only use certain political currents as inspiration and pave their own propositions.

To simply peg this as a general wing side is nothing more than political propaganda, and i will call you out on that.



VGPolyglot on 21 March 2017
Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

There are things to be tolerant of, like what food or video game someone prefers. Others, like racism, sexism and xenophobia are harmful and should not be tolerated at all. Also, you could talk about the contrary: because you can't get me to change my mind, does that mean that you're wrong too?

Except we can discuss what your definition of racism or sexism is. Is BotW really a sexist, transphobic game? Is Moriarty really a misogynist?

1. I haven't played BotW, so I can't comment on that.

2. Well, Moriarty is going to make a politics based show, so we're going to find out pretty soon.



Aura7541 on 21 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
brendude13 said:

There's a reason for that.

We know. Keep telling us how much more tolerant and better you are than us.

There are things to be tolerant of, like what food or video game someone prefers. Others, like racism, sexism and xenophobia are harmful and should not be tolerated at all. Also, you could talk about the contrary: because you can't get me to change my mind, does that mean that you're wrong too?

Very rarely does one change his/her mind so quickly in a debate due to the human nature of stubborness. One of the main functions of a public debate is to have other people see the exchange of ideas and opinions, and make their own judgement after that.



Lawlight on 21 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

Except we can discuss what your definition of racism or sexism is. Is BotW really a sexist, transphobic game? Is Moriarty really a misogynist?

1. I haven't played BotW, so I can't comment on that.

2. Well, Moriarty is going to make a politics based show, so we're going to find out pretty soon.

1. Want another example? Fine - what about James Rolfe who was attacked because he said he wasn't interested in the new Ghostbusters movie?

2. He was labelled that well before the show was announced - you've seen his tweet. So, I ask my question again - do you think he hates women?