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Lawlight said:
Acevil said:

So are you going to ignore when he attacked fellow bioware employees that are white? Also does that make the other team members he has also SJW and Racist, or am I again missing the agenda of Bioware because of one employee bad habits are horid. 

What did he say about his fellow employees?

And I'm not saying all the employees are SJWs - I don't doubt that not everyone agrees with the directives coming from up top but the company's direction is agenda-driven.

He has mocked his fellow coworkers constantly, for what they wear, to how they act, to what they do. 



 

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RavenXtra said:
Lawlight said:

He thanked the director of Bioware Montreal for supporting him and letting him speak his thoughts on Twitter. The fact remains that Bioware was allowing him to be their face. That's a fact.

And what does Twitter have to do with a game's development, a game where he was a gameplay designer among hundreds of people working on a game, have to do with what you were saying earlier?

Yeah we get it, the guy was a prick. Doesn't mean we have to take his personal views and apply them to the entire team or areas where he probably didn't even have that much influence.

So you're asking me what does the director of the studio of the video game in question who agrees with a racist gameplay designer and support his public views has to do with the game in question? 



Acevil said:
Lawlight said:

What did he say about his fellow employees?

And I'm not saying all the employees are SJWs - I don't doubt that not everyone agrees with the directives coming from up top but the company's direction is agenda-driven.

He has mocked his fellow coworkers constantly, for what the wear, to how they act, to what they do. 

I doubt they can say anything about that - in a left-leaning country and left-leaning company, what are they supposed to do?



Lawlight said:
RavenXtra said:

And what does Twitter have to do with a game's development, a game where he was a gameplay designer among hundreds of people working on a game, have to do with what you were saying earlier?

Yeah we get it, the guy was a prick. Doesn't mean we have to take his personal views and apply them to the entire team or areas where he probably didn't even have that much influence.

So you're asking me what does the director of the studio video game in question who agrees with a racist gameplay designer and support his public views has to do with the game in question? 

I'm saying someone being permissive of something on Twitter has nothing to do with the development of a game. He was a gameplay designer, he didn't design characters. You can't make any claim of there being some sort of "SJW Agenda" in this game just from a tweet between two people, its ridiculous.



Lawlight said:
Acevil said:

He has mocked his fellow coworkers constantly, for what the wear, to how they act, to what they do. 

I doubt they can say anything about that - in a left-leaning country and left-leaning company, what are they supposed to do?

So you want him fired is what you are saying?, because ya I think he should be (Since his conduct in my eyes online space is not acceptable, namely since it has came to light). But if you agree with that next time anyone else gets fired for offensive statements, please never let me hear you say "freedom of speech" is being attacked because they said something racist/sexist/agenda driven, because I seen pattern in your posts, and they only seem to be gathered around your own agenda. 

Back to the topic: Honestly from the sounds of it, this isn't SJW or Anti-SJW issue, it really just sounds like rushed product, and bioware has been losing some of the grasp on quality controls and retaining staff. 



 

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Pemalite said:
areason said:
The sjws have finally ruined something we love.

Seriously? Not everything is political drivel.

Airaku said:

Maybe next year all will be forgiven with the main studio in Edmonton pushes the new IP. I for one am excited for what's to come and just trying to keep my head up :)


I think everyone should try and be a little optimistic before jumping on the whole doom and gloom of BioWare's days are over.

I think a new I.P would be great. The issue with releasing a next-gen sequel of anything is that it inevitably gets compared to the last gen releases... And that's a high act to follow even if you had a fully intact original Team.

With a new I.P it won't be compared with anything else. Just hopefully they give it the appropriate amount of development time... They are working with a good platform (Frostbite) which they now have experience with, so no excuses.

areason said:

One of the head directors of the game is anti white, you don't have lighter skin tones in the character creation screen, and having random trans people placed in the game. 

Anti-white rhetoric tends to be the domain of conservatives. So I am not sure how you lumped that in with Social Justic Warriors, that would go against allot of what they stand for.

Ass Effect has always prided itself on LGBTQI diversity.

What? How are conservatives linked to anti white rhetoric, that comes from the left not from the right. Yes bioware has been a champion of that, and that is totally fine, but placing random characters with no backstory at all who's only lines in the game are about their sexuality is how sjws approach video games. 

You know TLOU had a gay character, most people missed that, that's because his purpose in the game isn't to be the gay guy. 



RavenXtra said:
Lawlight said:

So you're asking me what does the director of the studio video game in question who agrees with a racist gameplay designer and support his public views has to do with the game in question? 

I'm saying someone being permissive of something on Twitter has nothing to do with the development of a game. He was a gameplay designer, he didn't design characters. You can't make any claim of there being some sort of "SJW Agenda" in this game just from a tweet between two people, its ridiculous.

You're talking as I said he's the one who directed the game. I never said that - I posted the different points that show that the company's directives was agenda-driven. If you're refusing to see the whole picture and are focusing about that 1 point about the developer then that's your prerogative.



Acevil said:
Lawlight said:

I doubt they can say anything about that - in a left-leaning country and left-leaning company, what are they supposed to do?

So you want him fired is what you are saying?, because ya I think he should be (Since his conduct in my eyes online space is not acceptable, namely since it has came to light). But if you agree with that next time anyone else gets fired for offensive statements, please never let me hear you say "freedom of speech" is being attacked because they said something racist/sexist/agenda driven, because I seen pattern in your posts, and they only seem to be gathered around your own agenda. 

Back to the topic: Honestly from the sounds of it, this isn't SJW or Anti-SJW issue, it really just sounds like rushed product, and bioware has been losing some of the grasp on quality controls and retaining staff. 

I don't want him fired - I want people to be allowed to say what they think in an equal manner. But the reality is that's not possible at the moment - you can bash on white people but not make anti-immigration statements.

And rushed product where they only had time to make good male character models?



Lawlight said:
Acevil said:

So you want him fired is what you are saying?, because ya I think he should be (Since his conduct in my eyes online space is not acceptable, namely since it has came to light). But if you agree with that next time anyone else gets fired for offensive statements, please never let me hear you say "freedom of speech" is being attacked because they said something racist/sexist/agenda driven, because I seen pattern in your posts, and they only seem to be gathered around your own agenda. 

Back to the topic: Honestly from the sounds of it, this isn't SJW or Anti-SJW issue, it really just sounds like rushed product, and bioware has been losing some of the grasp on quality controls and retaining staff. 

I don't want him fired - I want people to be allowed to say what they think in an equal manner. But the reality is that's not possible at the moment - you can bash on white people but not make anti-immigration statements.

And rushed product where they only had time to make good male character models?

I only seen one good character model (male ryder), the rest look exactly as bad, male or female, and yes that could mean rushed. Actually I seen one good female as well, the med bay doctor voice and possibly modeled after Natalie Dormer, so it is 1 for 1. 

Also I seen many say anti-immigration statements not fired, but they get flack, just like this guy got flack, and if you want him to be treated in equal manner good on you, but I don't buy that one bit, you want him to shut up, otherwise you wouldn't have brought him up to paint whole developer based on one guy antics. 



 

areason said:

What? How are conservatives linked to anti white rhetoric, that comes from the left not from the right. Yes bioware has been a champion of that, and that is totally fine, but placing random characters with no backstory at all who's only lines in the game are about their sexuality is how sjws approach video games. 

You know TLOU had a gay character, most people missed that, that's because his purpose in the game isn't to be the gay guy. 

The left tend to trend towards equality and equity for all regardless of Gender, Sexuality or Race, they are progressive. Aka. "Social Justice Warriors".

Conservatives are right-wing, who have historically attacked those who are different from themselves. (Nazi Germany against the Jews and Homosexuals, KKK, White Supremicsts, Trump against Muslims and Mexicans. etc'.)
They use all sorts of rhetoric to hide that fact.

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As someone who is Gay, I do actually agree with you to an extent, that Characters should not just be "made" gay or throw sexuality in your face.
It should be built into the characterization from the very beginning and have a good backstory to build from that.

I didn't agree with the Gay reference in the last Star Trek film for a character I always thought was straight, I didn't appreciate how Kaden's perceived sexuality changed in Ass Effect 3 either.

But that's not the fault of the Social Justice Warriors, that is the fault of poor writing. Most LGBTQI people don't want characters to be Gay for the sake of it. We wan't gay Characters, sure. But done properly, done tastefully.



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