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Onada said:
Not surprised.

We all know that these people are just scum but you're not allowed to say it. The government are petrified of these muslims, they bend over backwards for them because otherwise there will just be another terrorist attack.

So yeah these people are scum and we all know it but they will do their best to make sure we don't say it to prevent what could happen.

Of course you're allowed to say it. The problem with you people in the extreme right is that you are so sensitive that you can't take criticism well. You seem to think that freedom of speech is the ability to speak your mind and be free of being objected to. So you could try to be a bit less sensitive and realize that you are not the centre of the universe and that you have not found some fundamental "truth" that can't be objected to.



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By 2100 lol, computer A.I. and the pending collapse of the capital economy (because there won't be enough jobs for people) will likely be a far bigger problem, if a bunch of religious blow hards on both sides want to have their "war", lol go right ahead.

Last I checked a 25% minority is still outnumbered 3 to 1.

I actually think computer A.I. is something people should be far more worried about, people joke about things like the Terminator and Matrix movies, but look at where we are in 2017 and look at how fast computational power improves (like every 2-3 years). In 50-60 years you could easily have machines/computer systems that are basically sentient.



Puppyroach said:
Onada said:
Not surprised.

We all know that these people are just scum but you're not allowed to say it. The government are petrified of these muslims, they bend over backwards for them because otherwise there will just be another terrorist attack.

So yeah these people are scum and we all know it but they will do their best to make sure we don't say it to prevent what could happen.

Of course you're allowed to say it. The problem with you people in the extreme right is that you are so sensitive that you can't take criticism well. You seem to think that freedom of speech is the ability to speak your mind and be free of being objected to. So you could try to be a bit less sensitive and realize that you are not the centre of the universe and that you have not found some fundamental "truth" that can't be objected to.

Exactly there's not many intelligent people in the middle ground here.

You either have basically racists who begin every statement with "I'm not a racist" (here's a pro-tip: if you can bring yourself to believe a group of people are quote "vermin" ... you have a problem with hate as obvious as a person with herpes all over their face trying to say they don't have an STD, sorry buddy). The extreme right always dissolves back into that. 

On the left, there's too many people who aren't willing to acknowledge any integration issues and willing to forgo liberal principals to accomodate religious extremism. If you are coming to live in Europe or the West, that's fine, but there also needs to be an understanding here that the West is a liberal, secular society. You are either OK with that or don't bother coming here. 

Very few people who are able to 

A) Treat all people like human beings with some dignity. 

B) Still acknowledge there are issues with an open border immigration policy. 



Soundwave said:
Puppyroach said:

Of course you're allowed to say it. The problem with you people in the extreme right is that you are so sensitive that you can't take criticism well. You seem to think that freedom of speech is the ability to speak your mind and be free of being objected to. So you could try to be a bit less sensitive and realize that you are not the centre of the universe and that you have not found some fundamental "truth" that can't be objected to.

Exactly there's not many intelligent people in the middle ground here.

You either have basically racists who begin every statement with "I'm not a racist" (here's a pro-tip: if you can bring yourself to believe a group of people are quote "vermin" ... you have a problem with hate as obvious as a person with herpes all over their face trying to say they don't have an STD, sorry buddy). The extreme right always dissolves back into that. 

On the left, there's too many people who aren't willing to acknowledge any integration issues and willing to forgo liberal principals to accomodate religious extremism. If you are coming to live in Europe or the West, that's fine, but there also needs to be an understanding here that the West is a liberal, secular society. You are either OK with that or don't bother coming here. 

Very few people who are able to 

A) Treat all people like human beings with some dignity. 

B) Still acknowledge there are issues with an open border immigration policy. 

I completely agree. The police in Sweden need to get the resources and support needed to push back against gangs that roam the streets. The problem I think, has been that the government in Sweden decided to reform the entire police force at the same time as we had massive immigration. Also, we need to put efforts I to getting immigrants into the workforce or education so that they cone in contact with society and the values that has built our society. The problem on the far left is that they almost seem afraid to make the same demands of an immigrant as they would do on a Swedish citizen and the far right are only occupied with irrational hate.



Lawlight said:
Pemalite said:

Did you not read the Article? It's there in plain black and white. (With a little bit of translation.)

And I quote:
"The policeman who published a post on Facebook, where he identifies immigrants as criminals suspected of incitement to racial hatred."

Except he didn't name anyone. And I've read the actual content of the post. See how the media easily swayed you with improper wording?

In any case this is a great example of government cover-up.

He named people on his facebook wall. Did you not read the article?

It is not acceptable for any professional to do that.



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Pemalite said:
Lawlight said:

Except he didn't name anyone. And I've read the actual content of the post. See how the media easily swayed you with improper wording?

In any case this is a great example of government cover-up.

He named people on his facebook wall. Did you not read the article?

It is not acceptable for any professional to do that.

I read the post and I read the article. The latter is misleading in making you think he listed actual people. He did not. He listed examples of first names. Get your facts right.



Lawlight said:
Pemalite said:

He named people on his facebook wall. Did you not read the article?

It is not acceptable for any professional to do that.

I read the post and I read the article. The latter is misleading in making you think he listed actual people. He did not. He listed examples of first names. Get your facts right.

And I quote: "The policeman who published a post on Facebook, where he identifies immigrants as criminals suspected of incitement to racial hatred."

If you have another source of information that makes the distinction that he only provided first names, then please do. Please provide it for all. Remember, you provided the link, not I.

He identified people on his personal facebook wall, that doesn't give the officer a "pass". And those are the facts.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Qwark said:

More than 90% of Turkey's landmass lies in Asia. Only half of Istanbul lies in Europe. Russia lies for 66% in Asia. Just because a country participates in European contests doesn't mean they are European. Or are countries as Azerbeidzjan, Kazachstan and Israël suddenly European too.

Turkey are more disputable, but I still consider them culturally European.

Russia however are definitely European. For much of their history Russia was entirely within Europe, and even now that Siberia is part of Russia too the main parts of it are all still in Europe. The vast majority of Russia's population and wealth is in the European part of it. The vast majority of people in Russia are Slavic (a European ethnicity). The Russian language is a European language and uses a European writing system, They may have more land in Asia than Europe, but the suggestion that Russia is more Asian than European is just wrong.

Edit: Also worth mentioning that like Russia the majority of Denmark's territory isn't in Europe (Greenland is in North America), yet I don't see anyone saying they're not a European country...

Interesting fact when it was being decide where to house the UN HQ both NY and SF where canidates it was pointed out in  Russia that west coast SF was closer to  the nearest Soviet city  that being Vladivostock than NY , but the kremlin said we are a European nation and will  allways be a European nation and Moscow the captal is closer to NY than SF so we vote NY.



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Pemalite said:
Lawlight said:

I read the post and I read the article. The latter is misleading in making you think he listed actual people. He did not. He listed examples of first names. Get your facts right.

And I quote: "The policeman who published a post on Facebook, where he identifies immigrants as criminals suspected of incitement to racial hatred."

If you have another source of information that makes the distinction that he only provided first names, then please do. Please provide it for all. Remember, you provided the link, not I.

He identified people on his personal facebook wall, that doesn't give the officer a "pass". And those are the facts.

No, those aren't facts. You're not listening, mate. You're categorically refusing to even read his post. Do a google search and read his post and then come back because as of now you're misinformed.



Ka-pi96 said:
Qwark said:

More than 90% of Turkey's landmass lies in Asia. Only half of Istanbul lies in Europe. Russia lies for 66% in Asia. Just because a country participates in European contests doesn't mean they are European. Or are countries as Azerbeidzjan, Kazachstan and Israël suddenly European too.

Turkey are more disputable, but I still consider them culturally European.

Russia however are definitely European. For much of their history Russia was entirely within Europe, and even now that Siberia is part of Russia too the main parts of it are all still in Europe. The vast majority of Russia's population and wealth is in the European part of it. The vast majority of people in Russia are Slavic (a European ethnicity). The Russian language is a European language and uses a European writing system, They may have more land in Asia than Europe, but the suggestion that Russia is more Asian than European is just wrong.

Edit: Also worth mentioning that like Russia the majority of Denmark's territory isn't in Europe (Greenland is in North America), yet I don't see anyone saying they're not a European country...

You are wrong. Both Turkey and Russia are undoubtedly Asian and the fact that people in the West can't comprehend this causes a lot of trouble way too often.

Turks are undeniably Asian. They come from central Asia and have conquered European soil only a few centuries ago, but there's nothing European about them. No case here to call them European.

Russians used to be Europeans in the beginning, when the Slavs were separating into the main 3 groups that we can distinguish to this day. But ever since the Mongols conquered them in early 13th century, they got totally detached from Europe and European civilization. Their culture, mindset, values have nothing in common with those of Europe. If anyone of you thinks differently, I'm gonna leave you with a famous quote of the legendary gen. Patton:

"The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinese or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks."

Take it from me, a person who understands Russians more than you in the West ever will - he was 100% true. If you want to know where Europe and European civililzation ends in the East, just look at where the Eastern borders of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth used to be. These are the furthest places the European civilization reached in this part of Europe.

 

@OP - Sweden is already lost. I seriously think that very soon there will be huge fights between Europeans and immigrants. They may reach a point in which the government won't have other choice but to kick all immigrants out of these countries, or there will be a crazy civil war.



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