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Daredevil lost me halfway through season 2.

Jessica Jones couldn't grab me.

I didn't bother with Power Ma- I mean, Luke Cage.

But Iron Fist? It's got me.



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This show is just boring garbage. Not every Marvel property needs to be defended to the hilt. People are using a the race issue from a handful of critics to rally around this turd and it's not even worth it, Iron Fist should have never got a show to himself. Like someone already said, not all of them can be winners.

Marvel will never get better if people think they can never do any wrong and fanboy at their side all the time. All the Marvel Netflix shows have issues, but, this one is the first that's a pure stinker.



Aerys said:
Puppyroach said:
Couldn't it be that most reviewers just think it's... bad? I've seen the first episode and it seems really good, just as I thought Luke Cage was really good. But there have been plenty of cases where o found a series or movie to be great while reviewers hated it. It doesn't do the lead actor any favors that he is also making himself the victim. It's not white, superrich people the critics dislike, but rather racist, superrich, priviliged white people that use others Iron fist doesn't seem to be about such a person...

Nop beczuse  reviewers talked about thé fact hes white as à flaw éven before watching thé show, they were biased. I followed thé Bashing ans it was ridiculous.

 

And yes it is white/rich people that à lot of people dislike,since  just being white makes you privileged for a lot of them

No, SOME reviewers used his race as a negative. Maybe more than in a usual review, but far from everyone. Also, of course white people are priviliged into a higher degree than others in a society where white are the largest group. I'm white with a traditional Swedish name and I know it gives me some advantages over others. And if media disliked the rich so much, why would they overwhelmingly support rich democrats than? :)



Aerys said:

After watching 6 épisodes, i have to make à thread Because the insane Bashing from biased critics is disgusting , and will probably hurt thé show.

I didnt believe the main actor when hé was accusing critics to bash his show because of racist opinions about how à white Man shouldnt play Danny Rand master of kung fu and how Donald Trump election Made people éven more angry about white rich m'en, but i see now hé was right.  ( https://www.google.fr/amp/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/tv/2017/3/15/14933424/iron-fist-finn-jones-trump )

This show is pretty good, most people who Saw it think thé same about this unjustified SJW Bashing, you should all Watch it if you liké Marvel Netflix universe , its much better than à Boring Luke Cage ( who got very good critics in comparison ... ) And id say éven à bit better than Jessica Jones that was too long for thé story told.

 

Its à shame Because its thé best Marvel Netflix série since Daredevil and people are just going to skip it or be influenced by critics.

 

 

Nah I heard the show is pretty boring with bad acting, nothing to do with Es Jay Dabuloos.

Also get a new keyboard, I can barely read what you're typing with the ès and âs.



Turkish said:

Also get a new keyboard, I can barely read what you're typing with the ès and âs.

That's pretty racist. We welcome all manner of keyboards here. 



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It's like you're Catholic and some black guys say "go pray to your White God" as if Jesus Christ is White.



Aerys said:
Jpcc86 said:
While the bashing is a bit exaggerated, I do feel a lot of the criticism is justified. I honestly dont like the show that much. Its the worst so far from the defenders characters. The story is terribly lazy and focuses too much on aspects we should take for granted and that we, as audience, already now. Like Danny's identity or corporate meetings.

The same goes for Daredevil, JJ and LC, WE know who they are but thé shows build the arriving of their alter ego in thé city.

So really weird criticism if you liké thé others , especially since i read it words for words from One journalist.. thats One of thé problème of Bad critics,  à lot of  people are influenced by it when they judge thé show

What? There is no trope for a Woman, Black Man, Blind guy coming in and being better at everything then the natives. You're also ignoring the fact that A. Luke Cage was a black man in a predominetly black neighbourhood. B. JJ was a white woman dealing with Sexual abused women and Daredevil was a white guy taking on crime in an irish dominanted area.

 

Iron Fist is a white guy who goes to Asia where no one at all looks like him and he's just able to be better at Kung-Fu then them all? He's the only one that can defeat their evil. That's a trope.



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Turkish said:
Aerys said:

After watching 6 épisodes, i have to make à thread Because the insane Bashing from biased critics is disgusting , and will probably hurt thé show.

I didnt believe the main actor when hé was accusing critics to bash his show because of racist opinions about how à white Man shouldnt play Danny Rand master of kung fu and how Donald Trump election Made people éven more angry about white rich m'en, but i see now hé was right.  ( https://www.google.fr/amp/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/tv/2017/3/15/14933424/iron-fist-finn-jones-trump )

This show is pretty good, most people who Saw it think thé same about this unjustified SJW Bashing, you should all Watch it if you liké Marvel Netflix universe , its much better than à Boring Luke Cage ( who got very good critics in comparison ... ) And id say éven à bit better than Jessica Jones that was too long for thé story told.

 

Its à shame Because its thé best Marvel Netflix série since Daredevil and people are just going to skip it or be influenced by critics.

 

 

Nah I heard the show is pretty boring with bad acting, nothing to do with Es Jay Dabuloos.

Also get a new keyboard, I can barely read what you're typing with the ès and âs.

Except plenty of reviewers have complained about his race. It's clear it's been docked points for having a white male.



JWeinCom said:
Watched a couple of episodes, and so far, it's pretty meh.

They've set up a sort of pseudo mystery about Danny, but we've been given no reason to care. There are no stakes so far. Daredevil, Jessica, and Luke are all trying to save others in their first episode, but Danny is just having a conflict with his half-siblings. Aside from the fact that Danny seems somewhat nice, and his stepbrother is a douche, I'm not sure exactly why I should care.

because we've seen the hand is evil in Daredevil and Danny mentions in episode 2 he's the sworn enemy of them and has to defend heaven's city.  That's a pretty major concern.



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The show so far simply isn't very good.  I've yet to be given a reason to care about the outcome of Danny's spat with his siblings.  They've spent three episodes having repetitive conversations about whether or not Danny is Danny.  This could have and should have been resolved in the first episode.  The acting is hit or miss, and the show is full of cliches.  *spoilers* The prodigal son returning to his business after an enlightening experience (Batman Iron Man), Danny giving Colleen casual advice as he casually blocks her attacks (Morpheus, Affleck Daredevil) , the crowd jeering at the small seemingly weak fighter who we know is going to take out the musclebound jerk off.  (Etc etc.  The generic far east wisdom Danny spouts is hackneyed regardless of whether it's coming from a white man or an asian man.

Boring meandering and repetitive plot, flat characters with vague motivations, and an overall lack of stakes.  It's a boring show so far.  What has the world come to when we can't hate a show starring white people for sucking?

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
JWeinCom said:
Watched a couple of episodes, and so far, it's pretty meh.

They've set up a sort of pseudo mystery about Danny, but we've been given no reason to care. There are no stakes so far. Daredevil, Jessica, and Luke are all trying to save others in their first episode, but Danny is just having a conflict with his half-siblings. Aside from the fact that Danny seems somewhat nice, and his stepbrother is a douche, I'm not sure exactly why I should care.

because we've seen the hand is evil in Daredevil and Danny mentions in episode 2 he's the sworn enemy of them and has to defend heaven's city.  That's a pretty major concern.

Why is that a major concern?  Why do I give a shit about what happens to heaven's city?