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Forums - PC Discussion - Starcraft : Broodwar Remaster to be announced 25/3/17

JRPGfan said:
Nettles said:

MOBAS killed RTS.People want dumbed down games now.Even SC2 wasn't dumbed down enough for the masses these days although i admit i mostly played UMS on it.SC2 main game i always thought was overrated.Didn't like the way blizzard went about balancing the game.

MOBAs are like RTS where you have team-mates and are forced to work together.

Id argue that some moba require just as much skill as most RTS's.

In RTS you "gamble" and try differnt strategies off, and usually thats it..... There is less "luck" factor in MOBA than RTS's.

Sorry but that is false in many ways, RTS' are heavily skilled based from mechanics to the players mentality, anyone who claims you gameble in a balanced RTS' is talking nonsense. The are counters to every strat in a balanced RTS and the games rotate in a battle of tech transitions all the while controlling your units, managing your resources, keeping an eye on your bases, setting up your production, fighting for map control, managing army composition etc... RTS' have team modes where people work together as well so what happens in a moba is nothing new for any RTS player, mobas don't require half as much of the things RTS' need the player to do.



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RTS' have a higher learning curve and no RTS has a higher learning curve than Starcraft : Broodwar.Anyway there are other reasons the RTS genre is so niche now.It didn't handle the transition from 2d to 3d well and many RTS fans solely played BW for years.Also i think it's hard to get great balance on day 1 release and many fans aren't willing to stick around while the balance improves with patches over months.



HYPEEEEEEEE.

I know they wont do it, but I wish they kept the original artstyle.I prefer it vastly over SC 2 style.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nettles said:
RTS' have a higher learning curve and no RTS has a higher learning curve than Starcraft : Broodwar.Anyway there are other reasons the RTS genre is so niche now.It didn't handle the transition from 2d to 3d well and many RTS fans solely played BW for years.Also i think it's hard to get great balance on day 1 release and many fans aren't willing to stick around while the balance improves with patches over months.

Balance issues are expected on day 1 and early on but when you have things like 8 armour ultras for 10 months and David The Special Case Kim is telling people to let the meta settle when anyone with sense can see it's a problem then balance rightfully becomes a heated topic. The are so many things wrong with LOTV on all levels and practically no patches which is why people leave, people stuck around in WOL and HOTS because the weren't as many issues and the game was playable for most part where as in LOTV you just die outright to something out of your control like your opponent going for ranged liberators and you didn't blind counter it.

BW took years to balance but was still playable on a strategic level, fans are leaving SC2 because the balance team have f'ed the game up with a vision no one can understand, Terran = all in or die trying, Zerg = hold all ins for dear life, Protoss = roulette of gimmicks and hope for the best or turtle into mass carriers, it's a shame because when it was near balanced it was one of the best games around.



Thanks for the grim analysis on the current state of SC2.I was aware it was pretty bad since i still post on teamliquid frequently but i haven't played it past WoL.



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Nettles said:
Thanks for the grim analysis on the current state of SC2.I was aware it was pretty bad since i still post on teamliquid frequently but i haven't played it past WoL.

HOTS was good tbh but don't play LOTV now if you have decen to good memories of the game unless you have extreme patience.



Blizzard milking their customers? Unheard of. I'm getting really tired of all these remasters and remakes, both in gaming in movies.



mysteryman said:
Azuren said:

There aren't 25 months

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There ain't 1 country in the world

 

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routsounmanman said:
John2290 said:
Bring SC2 to Ps4 already.

Just... Ermmm... How... Would... one play that? x@

Wouldn't it be cool with the Move motion controls?



Turkish said:
routsounmanman said:

Just... Ermmm... How... Would... one play that? x@

Wouldn't it be cool with the Move motion controls?

How does one map all the hotkeys on move?