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Forums - Sales Discussion - IHS : World console market down in 2016 but PS4 claims 51% share over Xbox One's 26%

tak13 on 17 March 2017
SWORDF1SH said:
tak13 said:

Did you read the note below the chart?

It's not just hardware and the software on it... It includes digital content/services!

 

So MS/SONY looks too high thanks to online play subscription, xbox live/ps now.

Something that Nintendo hasn't so far! They are introducingthat with switch, so IHS cannot predict for that when they don't know anything about how this new service of Nintendo will be and how much online play subscription will cost.Also, switch just was released, ihs doesn't have a pattern for estimation, therefore  they're playing it safe and predict same revenues as last year, albeit they should have been bold with their estimation, Nintendo made  some of the 5b with  800k wii us and 7.2m 3DS sold in 2016... Switch should top that easily in its first year and it has a greater profit margin that wii u ( remember being sold on profit from the beginning unlike wii u, which had losses for the first two years and not satisfying profit on hardware as Nintendo had with previous commercial flops ).

  

Nintendo makes that 5B  with the overwheliming majority coming from physical content. The report cites that sony made 4.4b with ps now excluding online play subscriptions.

Hence,  it's no surprise that Nintendo will finally charges us for online play and will create a service like ps now/xboxlive! it's an anti-consumer move tbut business-wise is smart... Huge increasment of the profit.

Well do you think Nintendo will only be up slightly from last year with the launch of Switch and Nintendo starting to charge for online?

I edited my post... Read the bolded and this is the answer for you reply!

( Yeah you are right for implying that ihs underestimating Nintendo earnings for 2017 )

 

 

  



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Jigsawx1 on 17 March 2017

so it seems that vgc is tracking xb1 and ps4 right!



tak13 on 17 March 2017
Rogerioandrade said:
Where the 3ds and the Vita are in those figures ?

It must include them...

I don't think that Nintendo made that 5b with the wii u being killed  in 2016...

I understand why you ask, Nintendo's seems low compared to MS/SONY...

 

However,  if you remove online play subcription and xboxlive/ps now! MS should be below or on par with  Nintendo, and sony not so much higher.

Nintendo's 5b is basically hardware and software, they don't charge for online play and don't have a service like ps now/xbox live, but with swith they will and this report is why anyone shouldn't be surprised at Nintendo following that practice too.

Edit: it mentions '' all hardware ''



Otter on 17 March 2017

Switch is about to restore some balance.



TheBlackNaruto on 17 March 2017
Otter said:
Switch is about to restore some balance.

Restore balance? Huh? Where and with what? Sorry slow moment here.



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tak13 on 17 March 2017
Aura7541 said:

I think IHS's XB1 estimate is closer to the real number than SuperData's estimate. Personally, I have the XB1 at 27.2 million (it sold 15.85 million in the US after Holidays 2016 and the US made up 58.2% of total sales after Holidays 2015).

What was the superdata's estimate?

Also vgc has it at 27.9...

In conclusion, very good tracking, even ihs estimation is the right, a 300k overtracking is almost nothing

Anyone who would complain about that, should try to do what vgc does and see if they can approach the real result so much!



Aura7541 on 17 March 2017
tak13 said:
Aura7541 said:

I think IHS's XB1 estimate is closer to the real number than SuperData's estimate. Personally, I have the XB1 at 27.2 million (it sold 15.85 million in the US after Holidays 2016 and the US made up 58.2% of total sales after Holidays 2015).

What was the superdata's estimate?

Also vgc has it at 27.9...

In conclusion, very good tracking, even ihs estimation is the right, a 300k overtracking is almost nothing

Anyone who would complain about that, should try to do what vgc does and see if they can approach the real result so much!

Pretty low. SuperData's XB1 estimate was 26 million.



Otter on 17 March 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
Otter said:
Switch is about to restore some balance.

Restore balance? Huh? Where and with what? Sorry slow moment here.

"However, the good news is that IHS expects 2017 to be a rebound year for the worldwide games industry, thanks to the launch of the Nintendo Switch and the ongoing growth in the digital console business."

The Switch will probably do around 10m this year, Nintendo will introduce their paid for online service, Switch Software will do significantly better than Wii U titles (with the possibility of Pokemon starts launching in the year) and the 3DS will still recieve several Big launches including DQXI.

A new console launch is normally good for the market. 



TheBlackNaruto on 17 March 2017
Otter said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Restore balance? Huh? Where and with what? Sorry slow moment here.

"However, the good news is that IHS expects 2017 to be a rebound year for the worldwide games industry, thanks to the launch of the Nintendo Switch and the ongoing growth in the digital console business."

The Switch will probably do around 10m this year, Nintendo will introduce their paid for online service, Switch Software will do significantly better than Wii U titles (with the possibility of Pokemon starts launching in the year) and the 3DS will still recieve several Big launches including DQXI.

A new console launch is normally good for the market. 

Oh yeah I saw all that. It was just the restore some balance part that had threw me off that's all lol. I was like huh restore balance to what.



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