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maxleresistant said:
bonzobanana said:

That's just clock speed

If you reduce the clock speed, you reduce performances. That's how it works.

Yes but it can remain identical silicon and not be customised just run at lower clocks. 



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SegataSanshiro said:
bonzobanana said:
Unless early Switch's are using the standard chip but later stock will have a customised chip. Maybe all launch Switch's are actually dev kit Switchs with a retail firmware and later Switch's will be different. So many problems with the early Switch's, it's practically beta hardware. I also think there is the possibility (remote possibility) that final retail Switch's will only be 2GB not 4GB and currently only 2GB is being accessed. For early adopters they may benefit later with being able to run dev kit software with a hack. Ok none of this is likely but it is possible.

Retail has 4GB.

We only know that because someone pulled apart a retail model and it had 4GB but if in fact early retail Switch's are actually development kit Switch's with retail firmware then we maybe assuming all retail Switch's have 4GB but a later model may have only 2GB. Lets not forget normally dev kit's have more memory than retail models so they can still have development software in the background while running full games yet both Switch development kits and the first issue of retail Switch's are both 4GB. 

If in a few month's we come across a new revision of Switch which has greater battery life and is cooler running perhaps that will be the time to pull it apart again and have another look.



Nintendo didnt use any R&D on the chip....
and they got them dirt cheap from nvidia (that had a huge stockpile laying around they couldnt sell).

It bugs me Nintendo decided to go for 299$ price point.
However if their still selling them faster than they can make them, its all good for them.

Guys dont be suckers though, if you wait like 6months time Im pretty sure you ll see them do a 50-100$ price cut.



JRPGfan said:

Nintendo didnt use any R&D on the chip....
and they got them dirt cheap from nvidia (that had a huge stockpile laying around they couldnt sell).

It bugs me Nintendo decided to go for 299$ price point.
However if their still selling them faster than they can make them, its all good for them.

Guys dont be suckers though, if you wait like 6months time Im pretty sure you ll see them do a 50-100$ price cut.

Did they have a huge stockpile, not read that anywhere. Also do Nvidia do anything cheap, they are one of the most profiteering companies out there who often price themselves out of contracts and treat their business partner's badly. 

Maybe your right though, Nintendo get their first batch on the cheap and then Nvidia ramp up the price when they can deliver a 16nm chip.



This is basically cancelled new Nvidia Shield tablet then gave it to Nintendo to produce Switch and that was back in 2016.

There's TX2 developer kit, however it's not even out yet and the cost is $600 to pre-order this kit.



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Not very surprising, to be honest.



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bonzobanana said:
JRPGfan said:

Nintendo didnt use any R&D on the chip....
and they got them dirt cheap from nvidia (that had a huge stockpile laying around they couldnt sell).

It bugs me Nintendo decided to go for 299$ price point.
However if their still selling them faster than they can make them, its all good for them.

Guys dont be suckers though, if you wait like 6months time Im pretty sure you ll see them do a 50-100$ price cut.

Did they have a huge stockpile, not read that anywhere. Also do Nvidia do anything cheap, they are one of the most profiteering companies out there who often price themselves out of contracts and treat their business partner's badly. 

Maybe your right though, Nintendo get their first batch on the cheap and then Nvidia ramp up the price when they can deliver a 16nm chip.

Lets say you make a chip, and assume you can sell it for x amount of $.

You make a couple of million of them (x$ times millions), hopeing to score some Tablet contract...... it falls through.

Now you have millions of these chips laying around in a warehouse.

No one wanted to buy them, so nvidia started makeing Shield TV, shield handheld, ect trying to not lose so much on the chips.

But its not selling well.... so you still have millions left.

Nintendo offers to buy them from nvidia, but knows nvidia cant really sell from a position of strength.

Its sell it to nintendo for dirt cheap, or risk never getting anything for them.

Nvidia choose to sell them dirt cheap.

Semiaccurate wrote a article about it, where they heard it from a inside guy, Nintendo got a really good deal on them.

 

"Nintendo get their first batch on the cheap and then Nvidia ramp up the price when they can deliver a 16nm chip."

Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if its something like that.

Nvidia takes a huge loss on the first batches of chips,  and hopes the switch goes on to sell like the "Wii" did, and think "we ll make profits down the line".



JRPGfan said:
bonzobanana said:

Did they have a huge stockpile, not read that anywhere. Also do Nvidia do anything cheap, they are one of the most profiteering companies out there who often price themselves out of contracts and treat their business partner's badly. 

Maybe your right though, Nintendo get their first batch on the cheap and then Nvidia ramp up the price when they can deliver a 16nm chip.

Lets say you make a chip, and assume you can sell it for x amount of $.

You make a couple of million of them (x$ times millions), hopeing to score some Tablet contract...... it falls through.

Now you have millions of these chips laying around in a warehouse.

No one wanted to buy them, so nvidia started makeing Shield TV, shield handheld, ect trying to not lose so much on the chips.

But its not selling well.... so you still have millions left.

Nintendo offers to buy them from nvidia, but knows nvidia cant really sell from a position of strength.

Its sell it to nintendo for dirt cheap, or risk never getting anything for them.

Nvidia choose to sell them dirt cheap.

Semiaccurate wrote a article about it, where they heard it from a inside guy, Nintendo got a really good deal on them.

Nintendo probably have a discusting 70% profit margin like Apple then?



Random_Matt said:
JRPGfan said:

Lets say you make a chip, and assume you can sell it for x amount of $.

You make a couple of million of them (x$ times millions), hopeing to score some Tablet contract...... it falls through.

Now you have millions of these chips laying around in a warehouse.

No one wanted to buy them, so nvidia started makeing Shield TV, shield handheld, ect trying to not lose so much on the chips.

But its not selling well.... so you still have millions left.

Nintendo offers to buy them from nvidia, but knows nvidia cant really sell from a position of strength.

Its sell it to nintendo for dirt cheap, or risk never getting anything for them.

Nvidia choose to sell them dirt cheap.

Semiaccurate wrote a article about it, where they heard it from a inside guy, Nintendo got a really good deal on them.

Nintendo probably have a discusting 70% profit margin like Apple then?

Wouldnt be surprised if on every Switch sold, nintendo takes 100$ to the bank.

Kinda greedy when sony/micrsoft probably make only tiny amounts on each sale.

Nintendo are good bussiness men though, and switch is gonna make them even richer.

 

I hope sales slow down abit, and nintendo decides to do a price drop early.

 

*edit: The greed though of nintendo, if they have HUGE profits on switch unit sales, why the hell are the accessories also so damn expensive? >_>



So, tech pros, whats the Teraflop output of a stock X1?

PS4 has 1.84 and XB1 has 1.33, what about the X1?



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