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Shootdatrupee said:
Darwinianevolution said:
I don't really agree with that logic. Even if cartridges do cost more than DVDs (that is a fact), the difference between prices is too much to justify it. Does every copy of the Switch game need to be 10€ more expensive than the other platforms due to cartridge? Is there really that much of a price difference? That is a really big difference. I really just think they are overcharging now due to the Switch not having that many games as of right now.

Saw a similar point being made in regards to price difference on reddit, and the reply was to consider that there may be thousands of places manufacturing blu-rays for every one place making NS cartridges, thus making it more difficult to keep prices lower or something...

But the difference is not 4-5€, it's 10€. If what you said was the case, are NS cartridges that different from DS/3DS ones? Those managed to keep their prices around 40-45€, and Nintendo still was the only one manufacturing DS/3DS cartridges.



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On the Vita I don't want cartridges anyway. It's got one cartridge slot and I don't like to carry additional carts so I make a choice which cartridge game I want to play that day and install that and then have a wider selection of small vita games on my 16GB card. Typically I use the cartridge slot for the largest games and choose to buy large games on cartridge. This balances the limited storage well. For example on Switch I would not want Bomberman as a cartridge. I'd want Zelda as the cartridge and smaller games on sdcard. Also with Switch game pricing being so high and storage being relatively cheap its not the same as Vita but there are some parallels. Also because of Switch pricing and poor account flexibility I'd want most games on physical for resell value so this would limit me probably to only the big exclusive Nintendo titles. I think its going to be very difficult to build up a reasonable library of Switch games at a competitive price. If you buy 4 small games at £50 each as digital that is the cost of a ps4 or xbox one. Every game would have to offer 10's of hours of fantastic content to justify those prices and not be available on other formats. For me only Zelda offers that currently.



Ka-pi96 said:
bonzobanana said:
I'm sure the cartridges are expensive and the prices scale up because there has to be a margin for everyone along the line, cartridge manufacturer, developer, publisher, wholesaler and retailer. If a cartridge costs between $3-6 to manufacture including retail packaging compared to 50c for a dvd or bluray then it is a factor.

I think we are all happy to pay £50 approx for an amazing Nintendo exclusive game like Zelda or Mario Odyssey
but £50 for a game that is available on many formats and might only be £2 on android and once bought will work with all your future android devices, same with ios or steam. Cartridges also prevent heavy discounting which you see on other formats. I honestly wonder if multi-format games on Switch will be viable at retail, they weren't on wii u. Often wii u games were very poor sellers due to weak technical performance and delayed launch and were then heavily discounted but were at least made cheaply for retail being optical discs. I can see the majority of third party Switch games being digital only fairly quickly to remain competitive in price and unlike the Vita which has proprietory memory cards at least with Switch it's relatively cheap to buy a 128GB card. However doing so will damage retail channels. Nintendo need to push for selling digital codes in retail packs which lowers the price below even optical discs. Give them a nice plastic case like cartridge Switch games but half the thickness with a large banner on the front stating 'Digital' and 'Internet connection and ?GB storage required' or words to that effect.

Nope. You may be, but 50 quid is too much to pay for a game in my eyes regardless of whether it's "amazing" "exclusive" or whatever else.

You've got to be kidding me. The amount of work put into games these days. Games are much cheaper to buy than they used to be.



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bonzobanana said:
Cartridges also prevent heavy discounting which you see on other formats.

I just ordered the cartridges of "Steins;Gate Zero" and "Root Letter" for £17 (~ €20) each, the PS4 versions on Blu-rays are still higher priced:

I'm sure that supply and demand are much more important for the price setting (and later price reductions) than the production costs.

Due to the sparse selection so far, there is a high demand for new Switch titles and publishers are trying to take advantage of that. If many of the Switch buyers let them get away with the price increase, it won't change and Switch versions of multiplatform games will stay more expensive than the other versions.



Conina said:
bonzobanana said:
Cartridges also prevent heavy discounting which you see on other formats.

I just ordered the cartridges of "Steins;Gate Zero" and "Root Letter" for £17 (~ €20) each, the PS4 versions on Blu-rays are still higher priced:

I'm sure that supply and demand are much more important for the price setting (and later price reductions) than the production costs.

Due to the sparse selection so far, there is a high demand for new Switch titles and publishers are trying to take advantage of that. If many of the Switch buyers let them get away with the price increase, it won't change and Switch versions of multiplatform games will stay more expensive than the other versions.

For a second I thought those were Switch games. Vita is pretty much dead with some serious discounting. If Vita had sold 150 million with people rushing to buy every new game we would see games close to suggested retail price. Sadly Vita games won't sell now without heavy discounting it seems.



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Ka-pi96 said:
FarleyMcFirefly said:

You've got to be kidding me. The amount of work put into games these days. Games are much cheaper to buy than they used to be.

You think I'm kidding because I don't like price increases? nah, that's actually pretty common

And as far cheaper to buy than they used to be, it's actually the opposite. Sure it may be cheaper if you use that "inflation adjustment" nonsense, but I don't.

Except that "the inflation nonsense" is also what steadily increases your wage. Things are getting more expensive but money to spend increases as well. That's why it's true that game costs do not increase. Wanting things to stay at the same price for years is wanting things to become cheaper.



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Ka-pi96 said:

Sure it may be cheaper if you use that "inflation adjustment" nonsense, but I don't.

Um, this is seriously Kellyanne Conway level of alternative facts. The value of money changes with time. This is a fact. You can't just ignore facts here. It is like saying, "Sure it may be cheaper if you use that "exchange rate" nonsene, but I don't" when referring to euros and dollars. A 2017 dollar has less value than a 1985 dollar, because the supply of dollars is greater than it was in 1985. Likewise, for any other fiat currency. 




vivster said:

Except that "the inflation nonsense" is also what steadily increases your wage. Things are getting more expensive but money to spend increases as well. That's why it's true that game costs do not increase. Wanting things to stay at the same price for years is wanting things to become cheaper.

I think I remember buying FF9 for £35-40 back when it came out, I'm buying ME:A in week for £39... if only house prices stayed as they were is 2001. 20 years of development and games still cost the same. Dev teams have 5 times more people, costs are 5 times higher, RRP the same.

Games are cheap now. But like Ka-pi, I also never spend £50 on a new game, based on UK competition, you can find games cheaper and some lose value in weeks, let alone months. 



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Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

Except that "the inflation nonsense" is also what steadily increases your wage. Things are getting more expensive but money to spend increases as well. That's why it's true that game costs do not increase. Wanting things to stay at the same price for years is wanting things to become cheaper.

My wages are 0 though. So... what steady increase?

A 15% increase in 0 is 0 + (1.15x0)= 0. You be grateful for your increase. XD



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