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Ali_16x said:
StreaK said:

Of course it won't. What that guy wrote was LMFAO material!

What're you talking about? It's absolutely possible for the Xbox One to beat the PS4 in sales in the US.

Maybe they where talking about the switch in japan, I don't know they didn't specify, I think it will absolutely with the ps5 launching earlier then the next xbox and the scorpio in combination with a new halo and stuff




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malistix1985 said:
Ali_16x said:

What're you talking about? It's absolutely possible for the Xbox One to beat the PS4 in sales in the US.

Maybe they where talking about the switch in japan, I don't know they didn't specify, I think it will absolutely with the ps5 launching earlier then the next xbox and the scorpio in combination with a new halo and stuff

well the switch will 100% outsell the PS4 lol, it's a handheld. it'll have the next pokemon game, monster hunter etc.



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Ali_16x said:
malistix1985 said:

Maybe they where talking about the switch in japan, I don't know they didn't specify, I think it will absolutely with the ps5 launching earlier then the next xbox and the scorpio in combination with a new halo and stuff

well the switch will 100% outsell the PS4 lol, it's a handheld. it'll have the next pokemon game, monster hunter etc.

So then if the scorpio comes this year, halo next year, the ps5 drops 1 or 2 years before the next xbox console, xbox should outsell the ps4 in north america, I think but obv. its just an opinion and if people think differently that is fine. With God of War and Death Stranding and stuff I am sure the PS4 will do very good I just think eventually the PS5 will pretty much stop the sales.

Also I expect a lot from Microsoft next year with their new console :) It should be a very good time and america has always loved the xbox franchise historically




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Ali_16x said:
StreaK said:

Of course it won't. What that guy wrote was LMFAO material!

What're you talking about? It's absolutely possible for the Xbox One to beat the PS4 in sales in the US.

The PS4 has around a 2M lead over the XB1 in NA if (am not mistaken). The ay these things work..... if the XB1 sudden;y started outselling the PS4 2:1 in NA for every single month it will take the XB1 20 months of outselling the PS4 every single month by at least 2;1 to just match it in sales and then start passing it.

So say by november this year we have the XB1s + Scorpio on the market, you really sincerely believe that for the following 2 years from that month, not only would the PS4 lose every single month to the XB1, but it would loase by at least 2:1 in sales?

Oh..... and you are making a very big oversight when it comes to the NA market. I think you don't know that price is most important in the NA. How do you think the market will play out with a $199 PS4 and a $299 PS4pro VS a $199 XB1s and a $399-$499 scorpio?



Switch will probably reach 5 million units worldwide by the next christmas (maybe more if Pokemon is release by then), which will completely obliterate WiiU's 13 million units the whole lifetime. It's really a conservative prediction really, since the first week already put almost 2 million units on user hands.

Xbox will probably never recover to the PS4, the decision to bring it's exclusives to the PC was idiotic to say the least... I know many people who already sold theirs, since they can play at thir PC, and chose to keep only the PS4 for exclusives.



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Intrinsic said:
Ali_16x said:

What're you talking about? It's absolutely possible for the Xbox One to beat the PS4 in sales in the US.

The PS4 has around a 2M lead over the XB1 in NA if (am not mistaken). The ay these things work..... if the XB1 sudden;y started outselling the PS4 2:1 in NA for every single month it will take the XB1 20 months of outselling the PS4 every single month by at least 2;1 to just match it in sales and then start passing it.

So say by november this year we have the XB1s + Scorpio on the market, you really sincerely believe that for the following 2 years from that month, not only would the PS4 lose every single month to the XB1, but it would loase by at least 2:1 in sales?

Oh..... and you are making a very big oversight when it comes to the NA market. I think you don't know that price is most important in the NA. How do you think the market will play out with a $199 PS4 and a $299 PS4pro VS a $199 XB1s and a $399-$499 scorpio?

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Ali_16x said:
malistix1985 said:

Maybe they where talking about the switch in japan, I don't know they didn't specify, I think it will absolutely with the ps5 launching earlier then the next xbox and the scorpio in combination with a new halo and stuff

well the switch will 100% outsell the PS4 lol, it's a handheld. it'll have the next pokemon game, monster hunter etc.

Thats not set in store, wasnt the Switch launch on par with PS4 launch?



Intrinsic said:
Ali_16x said:

What're you talking about? It's absolutely possible for the Xbox One to beat the PS4 in sales in the US.

The PS4 has around a 2M lead over the XB1 in NA if (am not mistaken). The ay these things work..... if the XB1 sudden;y started outselling the PS4 2:1 in NA for every single month it will take the XB1 20 months of outselling the PS4 every single month by at least 2;1 to just match it in sales and then start passing it.

So say by november this year we have the XB1s + Scorpio on the market, you really sincerely believe that for the following 2 years from that month, not only would the PS4 lose every single month to the XB1, but it would loase by at least 2:1 in sales?

Oh..... and you are making a very big oversight when it comes to the NA market. I think you don't know that price is most important in the NA. How do you think the market will play out with a $199 PS4 and a $299 PS4pro VS a $199 XB1s and a $399-$499 scorpio?

I don't know how the market will play out, that's why I said that it's possible for MS to win NA. You don't know how people will react to the Scorpio, maybe it being like a new console will give it the edge, or maybe it's the multiplats, I mean a 2M lead is not that big and MS goes all of out in NA. Just saying MS absolutely has a chance to win NA, not like the other 2 people saying it doesn't.



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Ali_16x said:
Intrinsic said:

The PS4 has around a 2M lead over the XB1 in NA if (am not mistaken). The ay these things work..... if the XB1 sudden;y started outselling the PS4 2:1 in NA for every single month it will take the XB1 20 months of outselling the PS4 every single month by at least 2;1 to just match it in sales and then start passing it.

So say by november this year we have the XB1s + Scorpio on the market, you really sincerely believe that for the following 2 years from that month, not only would the PS4 lose every single month to the XB1, but it would loase by at least 2:1 in sales?

Oh..... and you are making a very big oversight when it comes to the NA market. I think you don't know that price is most important in the NA. How do you think the market will play out with a $199 PS4 and a $299 PS4pro VS a $199 XB1s and a $399-$499 scorpio?

I don't know how the market will play out, that's why I said that it's possible for MS to win NA. You don't know how people will react to the Scorpio, maybe it being like a new console will give it the edge, or maybe it's the multiplats, I mean a 2M lead is not that big and MS goes all of out in NA. Just saying MS absolutely has a chance to win NA, not like the other 2 people saying it doesn't.

It has a chance.... but that chance is so small its unlikely to ever happend.

Race is over. PS4 has too strong a games lineup in 2017/2018.

MS has new hardware, that ll likely be 100-150$ more expensive than the PS4pro, and act the same way.

Its not going to change things imo.



It depends on them price, I predict that every console including Switch will get a heavy price cut
-ps4 199,xbo199
-pro 350, scorpio 399
switch 249



So should this be reflected when VGChartz updates the worldwide totals?

There have been months where VGChartz shows the PS4 outselling Xbox One three to one consistently on a weekly basis. So why does VGChartz always make it seem like Xbox One is a little above half of whatever the PS4 is selling if the PS4 is out selling Xbox One three to one?

I don't think Xbox One has reached 28.5 million or these Xbox One numbers are fudged.