Aura7541 said:
Er... okay? This doesn't refute my argument that there are ethical and unethical ways to gain wealth. |
Yes, there are ethical ways of gaining wealth. However, in the current system that we live in, that's almost impossible.
VGPolyglot said:
Yes, there are ethical ways of gaining wealth. However, in the current system that we live in, that's almost impossible. |
Why are you playing the assertion game again...?
Aura7541 said:
Why are you playing the assertion game again...? |
Because we're in a forum where we're supposed to express our views? What else am I supposed to do?
VGPolyglot said:
Because we're in a forum where we're supposed to express our views? What else am I supposed to do? |
Er... support your views instead of just making assertions? You know, "I think ______ because of _______."
Anyways, this conversation is on another topic of its own since this thread is about healthcare, not about rich people. I suggest that you either move the conversation to PM or make a separate thread.
Locknuts said:
No, workers and employers enter into voluntary agreements with one another. The rich usually aren't stealing to get where they are in developed nations.
Quite often, health insurance is part of an employment package in the US. So the rich pay anyway. Why should they be punished? |
Whilst I agree to an extent... Everyone should pay their way in a country. Relative to their success, regardless if they use the country's services or not.
The USA could learn a few things from overseas healthcare systems though which are not only cheaper, but they also provide a higher quality level of care, Trump Care is not going to achieve the success other nations have with their health systems.
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| TheWPCTraveler said: "Non-official website" The Rs can't really repeal Obamacare without getting rid of the 3/5ths rule to end debate in the Senate. So they either have to wait until 2018 or get rid of the rule. I'm also thinking Trump will just dump all the baggage on Ryan and just go straight to the public with a new healthcare plan- with a bunch of carrots on sticks to hole the Dems into going through with it. Two birds with one stone: the Blue Wall in the senate, and that RINO Ryan. |
Obamacare was passed through something called reconciliation (as part of the budget I believe). Those only require 51 votes (instead of 60), so the repeal only requires 51 votes as well.
I don't know if Dems are ever going to lift a finger to help Trump.
Dems are already helping trump for being such a weak opposition
VitaminZ said:
Obamacare was passed through something called reconciliation (as part of the budget I believe). Those only require 51 votes (instead of 60), so the repeal only requires 51 votes as well. I don't know if Dems are ever going to lift a finger to help Trump. |
The Obamacare modification was passed through reconciliation. Obamacare itself was passed when Dems possessed a 3/5ths supermajority in the Senate.
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VGPolyglot said:
Yes, there are ethical ways of gaining wealth. However, in the current system that we live in, that's almost impossible. |
My father lived in the slums of the ghettos and managed to gain a salary that most people would dream of having. He also faced many disadvantages and worked crazy hours to reach a comfortable life
Its definitely possible- it just depends on effort and some luck
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