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Forums - Sales Discussion - Spain Week 9 Charts: Zelda Debuts 1st over Horizon (Switch Version alone) Attach Ratio close to 100%

Jranation said:
Ali_16x said:

You two are actually surprised a 30 year old franchise is outselling a brand new IP on a console with pretty much only 1 "real" game? who knew.

UK got me worried :( 

I thought Horizon would beat Zelda in all EU Countries. 

I don't think we have the numbers for the UK so we don't know, it could have been a 1000 unit lead or whatever, even then it shouldn't be surprising really, it's Zelda.



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Ali_16x said:
Jranation said:

UK got me worried :( 

I thought Horizon would beat Zelda in all EU Countries. 

I don't think we have the numbers for the UK so we don't know, it could have been a 1000 unit lead or whatever, even then it shouldn't be surprising really, it's Zelda.

your right! They can't resist them perfect scores. 



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Ali_16x said:

Jranation said:

Right! 

You two are actually surprised a 30 year old franchise is outselling a brand new IP on a console with pretty much only 1 "real" game? who knew.

Ive seen plenty of people say Zelda hasnt been relevant for a while and this wouldnt happen (not here)



Ali_16x said:
Jranation said:

Right! 

You two are actually surprised a 30 year old franchise is outselling a brand new IP on a console with pretty much only 1 "real" game? who knew.

Well as of Oct 2014 the PS4 had sold 360k in spain http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ps4-sells-360-000-but-xbox-one-only-51-000-spain-31620133/

Its now probabbly over 600k and the switch is over 45k. Its still impressive that Zelda outsold Horizon.



Jranation said:
Ali_16x said:

I don't think we have the numbers for the UK so we don't know, it could have been a 1000 unit lead or whatever, even then it shouldn't be surprising really, it's Zelda.

your right! They can't resist them perfect scores. 

Pretty much, and that can go for any game, Nioh sold a lot because of it's amazing reviews, same with Horizon, Zelda and now even Nier is going to sell more than it would have if it got like an 80. Metacritic does make a huge difference.

jason1637 said:
Ali_16x said:

You two are actually surprised a 30 year old franchise is outselling a brand new IP on a console with pretty much only 1 "real" game? who knew.

Well as of Oct 2014 the PS4 had sold 360k in spain http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ps4-sells-360-000-but-xbox-one-only-51-000-spain-31620133/

Its now probabbly over 600k and the switch is over 45k. Its still impressive that Zelda outsold Horizon.

Again, no it isn't, Zelda is one of Nintendo biggest franchises and the Switch launched with pretty much one game. It's like being surprised if Halo sold that much if the XBO launched with it and it  being the only game. Same with Uncharted. Zelda selling Horizon is not impressive, it's pretty much to be expected.

And your first comment I replied to seemed to be stealth trashing Horizon.



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Ali_16x said:
Jranation said:

your right! They can't resist them perfect scores. 

Pretty much, and that can go for any game, Nioh sold a lot because of it's amazing reviews, same with Horizon, Zelda and now even Nier is going to sell more than it would have if it got like an 80. Metacritic does make a huge difference.

jason1637 said:

Well as of Oct 2014 the PS4 had sold 360k in spain http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ps4-sells-360-000-but-xbox-one-only-51-000-spain-31620133/

Its now probabbly over 600k and the switch is over 45k. Its still impressive that Zelda outsold Horizon.

Again, no it isn't, Zelda is one of Nintendo biggest franchises and the Switch launched with pretty much one game. It's like being surprised if Halo sold that much if the XBO launched with it and it  being the only game. Same with Uncharted. Zelda selling Horizon is not impressive, it's pretty much to be expected.

And your first comment I replied to seemed to be stealth trashing Horizon.

It wasnt the switches only games it launched with quite a few other games and its still impressive because of the large userbase. Horizon new IP or not is Sonys biggest game thus far this year and it came out on an userbase far bigger than what Zelda came out on. By Youre logic the Wii U version should have also did way better considering it has a bigger userbase. Also found more info saying PS4 sold 700k Jan last eyar so it wouldnt surprise me if its over 1m by now. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065407

So Zelda on a 45k userbase was able to outsell Sonys biggest game of the year thus far with a userbase probably over 1m. If thats not impressive i dont know what is. Its not trashing a game.



ironmanDX said:
That is a higher attach rate then anything I've seen before. Insane.

Not a whole lot else to buy.  I'm actually kind of surprised it's not 100.  Maybe 3% are resellers or something.



jason1637 said:
Ali_16x said:

Pretty much, and that can go for any game, Nioh sold a lot because of it's amazing reviews, same with Horizon, Zelda and now even Nier is going to sell more than it would have if it got like an 80. Metacritic does make a huge difference.

Again, no it isn't, Zelda is one of Nintendo biggest franchises and the Switch launched with pretty much one game. It's like being surprised if Halo sold that much if the XBO launched with it and it  being the only game. Same with Uncharted. Zelda selling Horizon is not impressive, it's pretty much to be expected.

And your first comment I replied to seemed to be stealth trashing Horizon.

It wasnt the switches only games it launched with quite a few other games and its still impressive because of the large userbase. Horizon new IP or not is Sonys biggest game thus far this year and it came out on an userbase far bigger than what Zelda came out on. By Youre logic the Wii U version should have also did way better considering it has a bigger userbase. Also found more info saying PS4 sold 700k Jan last eyar so it wouldnt surprise me if its over 1m by now. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065407

So Zelda on a 45k userbase was able to outsell Sonys biggest game of the year thus far with a userbase probably over 1m. If thats not impressive i dont know what is. Its not trashing a game.

Bahaha, please stop. As if 99% of the people who bought a Switch didn't buy it for Zelda. It's a launch game, what do you think people who bought a Switch will buy? 1-2 Switch? Zelda is pretty much the first game people will buy.

"Horizon new IP or not is Sonys biggest game thus far this year" what does that have to do with anything? I mean it's a new IP, people aren't going to buy it just because the name, they're buying it because it's a good game. The name Horizon holds no weight, Horizon achieved what it did because it was a good game. I'm not saying Zelda isn't a good game but Zelda is Zelda, most people know of Zelda. 

Lmao, I seriously don't understand how you don't understand why Zelda outselling Horizon is not a big deal, it's just what it is, it's not surprising.

And now you go from 600k to a over a million, lol.... And of course you weren't trashing Horizon/PS4.

EDIT: Wait, you do understand but you just made that comment to stealth trash Horizon/PS4.

EDIT 2: Lol jesus, it's a 30 year old franchise vs a brand new IP.....just.....lol....



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I always say Attach ratio is alot more important than just sales numbers because sales numbers never tell the full story.



Ali_16x said:
jason1637 said:

It wasnt the switches only games it launched with quite a few other games and its still impressive because of the large userbase. Horizon new IP or not is Sonys biggest game thus far this year and it came out on an userbase far bigger than what Zelda came out on. By Youre logic the Wii U version should have also did way better considering it has a bigger userbase. Also found more info saying PS4 sold 700k Jan last eyar so it wouldnt surprise me if its over 1m by now. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065407

So Zelda on a 45k userbase was able to outsell Sonys biggest game of the year thus far with a userbase probably over 1m. If thats not impressive i dont know what is. Its not trashing a game.

Bahaha, please stop. As if 99% of the people who bought a Switch didn't buy it for Zelda. It's a launch game, what do you think people who bought a Switch will buy? 1-2 Switch? Zelda is pretty much the first game people will buy.

"Horizon new IP or not is Sonys biggest game thus far this year" what does that have to do with anything? I mean it's a new IP, people aren't going to buy it just because the name, they're buying it because it's a good game. The name Horizon holds no weight, Horizon achieved what it did because it was a good game. I'm not saying Zelda isn't a good game but Zelda is Zelda, most people know of Zelda. 

Lmao, I seriously don't understand how you don't understand why Zelda outselling Horizon is not a big deal, it's just what it is, it's not surprising.

And now you go from 600k to a over a million, lol.... And of course you weren't trashing Horizon/PS4.

EDIT: Wait, you do understand but you just made that comment to stealth trash Horizon/PS4.

EDIT 2: Lol jesus, it's a 30 year old franchise vs a brand new IP.....just.....lol....

Well 99% of Switch buyers didnt byt Zelda theres I am Setsuna, Just Dance, Fast Racing RMX,Bomberman R, Shovel Knight, Snipperclips etc so its not like thye had to buy Zelda.

Well yeah people know about Zelda duh that and its almost perfect score is why it sold so well but thats like saying nobody knows about Horizon when its was higly marketed, and it got a pretty good score also plus a way larger install base.

It wouldnt be a big deal if the Switch had been out for a while but considering that Horizon came out on an install base of about a million compared to zelda on 45k then yea its a big deal. Why didnt the Wii U version outsell Horizon since Zelda name is so big?

I found that it sold 360k around OCT 2014 so i said its probably around 600k then i looked for more sales data and it sold 700k in Jan 2016 so its safe to say the PS4 is around 1ml in Spain.

No i didnt.

Lol jesus a 1mish install base vs a 45k install base