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etking said:

I discovered 2/3 of the map and could climb absolutely everything so far with a little use of strategy. Nearly all towers that seem too high have high hills right next to them, so stamina is not required. And you always find a way to climb the highest mountains with little stamina use. Often you can just run instead of climbing, consuming no stamina at all. Or climb it in smaller portions.

I was really disappointed that the 3rd stamina upgrade is so small and will not upgrade any further and prioritize the hearts required to obtain the master sword for the time being. Also if it rains, and it rains quite often, stamina is useless for climbing but hearts keep their function.

Stamina is also used for charged attacks and slowing down time with the bow.



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caffeinade said:
etking said:

I discovered 2/3 of the map and could climb absolutely everything so far with a little use of strategy. Nearly all towers that seem too high have high hills right next to them, so stamina is not required. And you always find a way to climb the highest mountains with little stamina use. Often you can just run instead of climbing, consuming no stamina at all. Or climb it in smaller portions.

I was really disappointed that the 3rd stamina upgrade is so small and will not upgrade any further and prioritize the hearts required to obtain the master sword for the time being. Also if it rains, and it rains quite often, stamina is useless for climbing but hearts keep their function.

Stamina is also used for charged attacks and slowing down time with the bow.

Not really, since you're just going to slip in a lot of cases.

For the rain, it doesn't help since the rain makes us slipping while climbing but if you have enough stamina upgrade you can still make it without too much problem ;)



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I'm focused on hearts because I want to grab the Master Sword, and like others, stam has been a non-issue for me with only one upgrade in it. It's just about hunting for the best cliffs to get to those trickier shrines. There's one on top of a tall stone spire in northern Akkala, and if I tried climbing it, failure. Instead I just ran around up a cliff, took a glide across, and climbed the last 15 or so feet to the top. The environment is versatile enough that large amounts of stamina are rarely a necessity.

I think the only exception so far is this giant labyrinth thing off the coast of northern Akkala. I tried gliding to it, but I didn't have enough stam to make the whole journey. I can just cook up some stam restoration food though and solve that problem. Food use swings both ways.



 

etking said:

As far as I heard, it does not break. But the attack power degrades over time, you seem to need it for the better ending.
And I really don't know a single place where you need more than two stamina upgrades to get to.

Ah, I'm not worried about the ending for a long time. Plus it's not about being able to climb there, it's the convenience of being able to jump all the way up. Much more fun exploring when you can quickly run up most cliffs and pillars. Together with Gavali's power no more slow climbing anywhere. I have 7 stamina upgrades currently, 3 to go before investing in hearts. Still 9 sections or provinces I have not even been too before focusing on the ending, plus plenty left in 3 others I have unlocked the tower for yet not fully explored.

Since I'm playing without using fast travel, stamina is very useful for efficiently getting around. I use stamina all the time, hearts not really, just don't get hit :)



mjk45 said:
SvennoJ said:
I currently have 2 stamina circles and 5 hearts. Got one heart from a dungeon after I got a 4th heart since all the meals I prepared regenerate 4 hearts... I have 8 orbs to spend again, tempted to get more stamina as jumping up and around cliffs saves so much time :) Plus I want to glide even further!

How many shrines are there? I guess plenty to get enough hearts after maxing stamina? 40 to max out stamina.

The number of shrines iirc is 120 plus you have the 4 dungeons.

Ahh, so 40 for stamina, leaves 20 extra hearts + 4 from dungeons, 27 total.



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SvennoJ said:

I gave in and started buying the normal arrows when I have the chance. Running out when you need them in shrines or to get a Korok seed is no fun. I avoid using the special types when possible. I used 10 bomb arrows on a frost talos (can't touch it for instant freeze death) which if I had bought them would have been 2000 rupees, for a 100 rupee reward to defeat him lol. He dropped gems too anyway to make it less painful.

I wish the game was a bit nicer with loot. Put what I need in those hard to get chests instead of another bow or sword I already have and can't carry. There are so many chests I have left behind full which could all have had some nice arrows in them instead, or gems.

Are gems needed for anything btw? I've been saving them up as I haven't really found much to buy so far other then arrows. Just the full Rito gear but I payed that with cooking gourmet dishes :)

I have 5 hearts now, no armor uogrades and still easily get ganked. Fighting more than 1 enemy at a time with a 2 hander is a no go. I do like how you can get quick hits in with 2 handers by charging at enemies, momentum for the win. Yet cancelling and putting the shield back up usually takes too long when there's a second enemy running around. And don't charge at bears, they're not impressed lol.

I imagine that hitting a Frost Talus with fire arrows could help, just like hitting a Fire Talus with ice arrows helps. By the way, don't use bomb arrows for a Fire Talus; the air on Death Mountain is so hot that they instantly explode.

Gems are needed for certain armor upgrades. Gems can also be used to create jewelry (head gear) in one specific shop. Jewelry seems to have the highest defense stats and each upgrade will take a lot of gems that were already needed to get the equipment in the first place. I'd advise that you hang on to a good number of the rarer gems. As in, you should keep a few dozens as a reserve.

SvennoJ said:
EricFabian said:
No Master Sword for any of you stamina players

Does it break after 2 of the more difficult enemies like everything else? Then who cares!
Zelda is made for the ultimate consumer society, nothing lasts, everything is made to break two steps out the door.

The Master Sword doesn't break, but it can run out of power. At that point it takes ten minutes to recharge (actual gameplay, time spent in menus does not count). The Master Sword only recharges if it has run completely empty.

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mjk45 said:

The number of shrines iirc is 120 plus you have the 4 dungeons.

Ahh, so 40 for stamina, leaves 20 extra hearts + 4 from dungeons, 27 total.

One of the hints during the loading screens states that there is competition for the statues of the goddess. I haven't found this person yet, but it should be possible to max out both stamina and hearts (30). Basically, three upgrades should be exclusive to this competitor.



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If I was playing I'd put it all into stamina, streamers I watch keep running out like instantly and still dying in one-two hits regardless of all those hearts.



at 8 orbs now so 1 heart, 1 stamina

hearts are more important for me at the moment so I don't get one shot D:



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I have my Master Sword, and I am back to max Stamina, 3 hearts.



Upgraded armor and the item that you get after defeating Vah Ruta helps a lot - the moment when I stopped dying in the game and could focus more on exploration. 3 Upgrades for the stamina is enough for nearly everything for now. You can also trade health for stamina and vice versa for some rupees.