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naruball said:
Miyamotoo said:

That want change fact that "Nintendo Switch is the fastest-selling Nintendo console in European and US history".

Nope. But it will change what I replied to. "Actually good concept, great launch game and good marketing has its perks".

I believe that people who bought it are hardcore Ninty fans just like the ps4 did extremely well breaking records left and right without a great launch game or a "good concept". Whether it's selling thanks to the points you mentioned or not remains to be seen.

Of Course not, good concept stays good concept, same goes for great launch game, only what is chaningible is marketing.

That's not exactly same, you could say that for Wii U or Wii, but fact is that Switch breaks record not Wii U or Wii. In matter of PS4, people were eager for successor to PS3/Xbox360 consoles after 8 years and PS4 was more attractive than XB1 was.



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RolStoppable said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
Great news for Nintendo!

And yet, I'm afraid that the Switch's success story will soon be over. I fear that this article is quite correct when it comes to Switch sales beyond launch:
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/267594/why-the-nintendo-switch-may-struggle-to-sell-well/

That article is really, really, really, really, really bad. The points it raises are more often than not devoid of logic. It could pass as a satirical article.

You're not even mentioning any concrete criticism. Anyway: I don't think so, but we'll see.

As much as I hope for Nintendo to release a great video game console again that becomes a huge success, I just don't see the Switch being that console.

And while I can easily understand why Nintendo fans get excited about news like "Nintendo Switch was the fastest-selling Nintendo console at launch", I know perfectly well that such news ultimately say nothing about the console's actual future success. The day the Wii launched, I was waiting in a crowd for the store to open, I remember all those people running to the video games section as soon as the door opened, trying to get a console before they were all sold out shortly after.

The number of hardware sales at launch says nothing about that console's future success, it's basically just an indicator of how many units the company supplied for launch.



Miyamotoo said:
naruball said:

Nope. But it will change what I replied to. "Actually good concept, great launch game and good marketing has its perks".

I believe that people who bought it are hardcore Ninty fans just like the ps4 did extremely well breaking records left and right without a great launch game or a "good concept". Whether it's selling thanks to the points you mentioned or not remains to be seen.

Of Course not, good concept stays good concept, same goes for great launch game, only what is chaningible is marketing.

That's not exactly same, you could say that for Wii U or Wii, but fact is that Switch breaks record not Wii U or Wii. In matter of PS4, people were eager for successor to PS3/Xbox360 consoles after 8 years and PS4 was more attractive than XB1 was.

I always have trouble following what you're trying to say. But I'll attempt once again.

The ps4 did amazingly well just like the Switch. You claim that Switch did so because of x and Ps4 because of x. That doesn't make it a fact. It's nothing more than your guess. Like an another person said, in order to know this, we would need a proper poll and assume that the people being polled are honest in their answers.

Ps4 sold well for a number of reasons and so did the Switch. But the trend is clear. More people preorder than they used to. Also wasn't wii sold out everywhere? How would it be able to beat the Switch if less wii's were available to be bought?

First week numbers are always good with very few exceptions (like the psv I think and of course devices no one wants like ouya). Even xbone did incredibly well despite its disastrous launch.



naruball said:
Miyamotoo said:

Of Course not, good concept stays good concept, same goes for great launch game, only what is chaningible is marketing.

That's not exactly same, you could say that for Wii U or Wii, but fact is that Switch breaks record not Wii U or Wii. In matter of PS4, people were eager for successor to PS3/Xbox360 consoles after 8 years and PS4 was more attractive than XB1 was.

I always have trouble following what you're trying to say. But I'll attempt once again.

The ps4 did amazingly well just like the Switch. You claim that Switch did so because of x and Ps4 because of x. That doesn't make it a fact. It's nothing more than your guess. Like an another person said, in order to know this, we would need a proper poll and assume that the people being polled are honest in their answers.

Ps4 sold well for a number of reasons and so did the Switch. But the trend is clear. More people preorder than they used to. Also wasn't wii sold out everywhere? How would it be able to beat the Switch if less wii's were available to be bought?

First week numbers are always good with very few exceptions (like the psv I think and of course devices no one wants like ouya). Even xbone did incredibly well despite its disastrous launch.

Guess what, Switch is also sold almost everywhere.

Its not about only good first numbers, in this case its about best first numbers in history of Nintendo in US and Europe, thats huge difrence. For instance Wii U didnt sold better than Wii on launch, but curenlty Switch sold better than Wii and Wii U.



AlfredoTurkey said:
danielrdp said:

Actually the console itself is really cool. Yes, I know the dock sucks. It can scratch the screen, but overall I was really impressed with the switch. 

It can scratch the screen... if someone is wreckless and doesn't know how to take care of their console. Seriously. I own one, there's no scratching the screen over at my house.

Well, I'm really careful too, but I won't take any chances. I've already bought a screen protector. 



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ArnoldRimmer said:
RolStoppable said:

That article is really, really, really, really, really bad. The points it raises are more often than not devoid of logic. It could pass as a satirical article.

You're not even mentioning any concrete criticism. Anyway: I don't think so, but we'll see.

As much as I hope for Nintendo to release a great video game console again that becomes a huge success, I just don't see the Switch being that console.

And while I can easily understand why Nintendo fans get excited about news like "Nintendo Switch was the fastest-selling Nintendo console at launch", I know perfectly well that such news ultimately say nothing about the console's actual future success. The day the Wii launched, I was waiting in a crowd for the store to open, I remember all those people running to the video games section as soon as the door opened, trying to get a console before they were all sold out shortly after.

The number of hardware sales at launch says nothing about that console's future success, it's basically just an indicator of how many units the company supplied for launch.

A strong launch can fall flat like the Wii U. Difference however is that the Switch doesn't look like a Fisher-Price addon to the Wii :p

 

It all depends on whether Nintendo can keep momentum. They're gaining indie/3rd party support, and have spaced out exclusives. If they keep it up, I don't see why the switch should do bad. Marketing is also good, with many people at least recognizing the Switch as "that new console".



Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. We need to see how the console sells in the first 2 months to get some indicator of long term success. Long before it launched those who questioned its viability still said it would have a great launch. Nothing has changed from that we need to see how sales are after the first 5 million consoles to see if its just sold to Nintendo's core audience or its appealing to a wider audience. Also those early adopters will now be important in giving their views on the console, will they be happy with it or unhappy. Some of the early adopters of wii u rejected it and actually sold it on shortly after buying. Also I remember seeing many critical comments about wii u demonstration units in store because of poor graphics etc. When you pre-order a console you are clearly making a decision without even seeing the product but many won't buy until they have seen and sampled the product which is a different process. Pricing also becomes more critical for finding a wider audience.

I guess the point is, is there that cliff edge approaching like wii u where sales dropped to very low levels shortly after launch?



bonzobanana said:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. We need to see how the console sells in the first 2 months to get some indicator of long term success. Long before it launched those who questioned its viability still said it would have a great launch. Nothing has changed from that we need to see how sales are after the first 5 million consoles to see if its just sold to Nintendo's core audience or its appealing to a wider audience. Also those early adopters will now be important in giving their views on the console, will they be happy with it or unhappy. Some of the early adopters of wii u rejected it and actually sold it on shortly after buying. Also I remember seeing many critical comments about wii u demonstration units in store because of poor graphics etc. When you pre-order a console you are clearly making a decision without even seeing the product but many won't buy until they have seen and sampled the product which is a different process. Pricing also becomes more critical for finding a wider audience.

I guess the point is, is there that cliff edge approaching like wii u where sales dropped to very low levels shortly after launch?

Even if it doesn't do well, definitely won't be as bad as the Wii U. After all, the Wii U was ridiculously expensive to make. If the Switch slows down like the 3DS, they can devise methods to boost it up.

Keep in mind that Super Mario 3D Land and the $80 price cut was the "true" launch for the 3DS, as that is when things finally got going. Super Mario Odyssey will probably do the same thing, speeding up sales regardless of the console's status in November. Whether if it is at around 8m-11m or magically still at the 2m units sold, we will see some magic occur again with the release of a long-awaited Mario I mean, really. People are excited for BotW and all, but imagine how much people will love Odyssey? It's basically the sequel to 64. A lot of people dreamed about a "Super Mario Universe" game, and this fills it up pretty well.

 

Also, the Wii U in general was just, well, bad. Look at the Vita in comparison. As bad as the Vita did, it's actually pretty sleek hardware. Decent power to run some nice-looking games, and has indie support too. The Wii U? More like Wii ew. I'd be lying to you if I said the Wii U's hardware wasn't ugly. Thankfully, Nintendo kicked out Fisher-Price from their company and made hardware that gives a nice vibe to it



bonzobanana said:
Helloplite said:

UK is also in Europe. It sold over 325,000 for all we know, and aprox 80,000 in UK. Europe has a population of 735 million. UK has a population of 64 million. So, no, it did not do bad in UK. It should have sold only 30,000 there, for interest to be the same as the rest of Europe. So, UK was a strong launch and contributed a lot to the system's sales (almost 25% of all European sales, despite having less than 10% of Europe's population).

You can't calculate it fairly that way because the UK is a very strong gaming region historically with a higher disposable income than many areas of Europe where sales will be lower. Normally I think you'd expect consoles to sell better in the UK than France for example but the UK is actually a strong market for Microsoft and so its splits down sales somewhat. 

This is all too early to assese anyway we need to see a couple of months of sales figures to see a pattern. 

It is looking very positive though which justifies Nintendo's high pricing and even if momentum slows Nintendo can bundle or price cut fairly quickly if they have to perhaps September for the build up for Christmas.

Zelda is such an amazing game for a launch. I rember Super Mario World on snes and Mario 64 on N64 being amazing and Zelda BOTW seems as good as those.

Record in France was just broken by the Switch at 105k. UK has so many consoles that outdid that in launch including 250k by PS4, 180k for PSP and 150k for XB1. UK market is just much larger so 80k is decent nothing more (but I cant find any so probably understocked too).

In any case the France numbers are minblowingly good, didt expect that from EU. Very impressive all around!

 

In any



monocle_layton said:

A strong launch can fall flat like the Wii U. Difference however is that the Switch doesn't look like a Fisher-Price addon to the Wii :p

It all depends on whether Nintendo can keep momentum. They're gaining indie/3rd party support, and have spaced out exclusives. If they keep it up, I don't see why the switch should do bad. Marketing is also good, with many people at least recognizing the Switch as "that new console".

I consider it a given that the Switch will sell significantly better than the WiiU, if only for the reason that it's clearly a better concept.

But doing bad is an extremely vague phrase that can mean almost anything. If selling significantly better than WiiU is enough for being considered not doing bad, then I absolutely agree. But I doubt that in the long run Switch sales will come anywhere close to, say, Wii- or PS4 sales.