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Bandorr said:
Trump makes wild claim.
Has no evidence.
Demand the congress look into this wild claim (that still has no evidence).
Then after that says they "refuse to talk about it".

Then James Comey ask Justice Department to reject Trumps wild claim (you know, the one with on evidence).

Yep this is a hilarious train wreck.

No no, let's keep talking about why making friends with Russia isn't bad. Because that's the conversation Trump's supporters can, rightfully, win.



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Lefil said:

LurkerJ said:

I'll be more than happy if this is true, corporate democrats need to be taken down as soon as possible. I am a leftie and I am saddened by how the democrats have been handling things.

Are you happy about Trump’s corporate cabinet? He has named several billionaire investors and corporate executives for top posts, including ExxonMobil chief Rex Tillerson for secretary of state. The world is witnessing one of the worst and most catastrophic collections of thieves and liars to ever be assembled. 

No, I am not. Not that I care.

Even if Clinton won, I would've still wanted her presidency to be catastrophic. Democracy in the US, and in many other places, has become a tool for autocrats to extend their influece beyond their oppressed nations. We need a true wake up call to take down both parties, as naive & cliched as that sounds.



LurkerJ said:
Lefil said:

Are you happy about Trump’s corporate cabinet? He has named several billionaire investors and corporate executives for top posts, including ExxonMobil chief Rex Tillerson for secretary of state. The world is witnessing one of the worst and most catastrophic collections of thieves and liars to ever be assembled. 

No, I am not. Not that I care.

Even if Clinton won, I would've still wanted her presidency to be catastrophic. Democracy in the US, and in many other places, has become a tool for autocrats to extend their influece beyond their oppressed nations. We need a true wake up call to take down both parties, as naive & cliched as that sounds.

Trump is bad for America AND bad for the world. Many Americans lack the understanding of how very real the consequences of American politics are for many countries.



Soundwave said:
badgenome said:

Extremely unlikely since if there were such a deal it would have been exposed by now by all the powerful people who were so very desperate to keep him out of power. The fact that the whole Russia narrative has been nothing but an innuendo campaign strongly indicates that there's simply no there there and it's simply a pathetic attempt to delegitimize Trump.

Sad that you're willing to hand wave this. 

If there's nothing here, why is General Flynn fired and Jeff Sessions having to rescue himself from an investigation on the matter? 

Lets have a full and impartial investigation here. If nothing is wrong, Trump should have nothing to hide and nothing to get overly defensive about. In fact if there's nothing wrong, shouldn't Trump be the first one pushing for an investigation that can clear his name and be a victory on his mantle against his critics?

I also notice none of the Trump supporters have wanted to touch this topic at all for several weeks now even though it's been boiling over, now they're going to try and blame Obama for it as pent up frustration needs to be pointed somewhere. 

It seems to be like Trump was counting on Sessions being the one helming the so-called "investigation" into Russians ties, which is a gross conflict of interest, but now that Sessions rescused himself from being involved in the investigation, Trump seems awfully angry because there might actually be a real investigation now and he doesn't want that. 

Oh Soundwave, you seem to be the perfect example of how perfectly the rusophobic bandwagon is oiled. BTW this is comming froma  guy living in Romania, and who couldent give a flying fuck about who came out as president in the US, I just find it funny, how in the last couple of years we yet again went back demonizing the russians, simply to hide our own countries incompetence and serious social issues (this is also true for Romania, btw).



Vote the Mayor for Mayor!

Well the source has finally been revealed... Andrew Napolitano

This can't get any fucking better.... Love this quote.

"All we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television," Trump said during Friday's news conference. "You shouldn't be talking to me, you should be talking to Fox."

So he passes the blame to Fox News who has already retracted everything Napolitano has said.

He has just made himself into the boy who cried wolf. When a real disaster happens most people will just ignore him considering he lies all the damn time.  I didn't think something could make him look more like an idiot but this might have put the icing on the cake.



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Lefil said:
LurkerJ said:

No, I am not. Not that I care.

Even if Clinton won, I would've still wanted her presidency to be catastrophic. Democracy in the US, and in many other places, has become a tool for autocrats to extend their influece beyond their oppressed nations. We need a true wake up call to take down both parties, as naive & cliched as that sounds.

Trump is bad for America AND bad for the world. Many Americans lack the understanding of how very real the consequences of American politics are for many countries.

The consequences of American foreign politics has been disastrous for many countries for decades. Trump is only furthering that cause.



LurkerJ said:
Lefil said:

Trump is bad for America AND bad for the world. Many Americans lack the understanding of how very real the consequences of American politics are for many countries.

The consequences of American foreign politics has been disastrous for many countries for decades. Trump is only furthering that cause.

Let us not mention most countries in Central and South America.  We can forget about the Middle East also.



Wow this is getting worse so basically all lies from Trump or is FBI paid by Obama aswell?






konnichiwa said:
Wow this is getting worse so basically all lies from Trump or is FBI paid by Obama aswell?

considering that the FBI pretty much handed Trump/Republicans the election with that reopening of the Hillary email case (which turned out to be nothing) I think even the most "woke" conspiracy nutters will have a hard time paiting the FBI as librul tool



Soooooo...

...where's the proof? You can't honestly expect people to believe your claims without proof, right? ...Right?



I'm now filled with determination.